Hurney freeing up cap space. Extension coming?

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

Based on what has he improved? 

Are we really going to pretend that this off season didn't happen?  With a great over all draft (regardless of Grier opinion), and off season signings that shored up holes pretty well?

Just consider the most vocal issue people have right now is the back up QB position.  We went into the offseason with the following issues:

-People to actually convert the defense to 3-4

-FS

-SS 

-Most of the offensive line

-Extremely limited cap space

Will the moves work out?  Thats still to be seen.  But if we step back from the Hurney-Hate..he did as well as I could expect any GM with the huge amount of holes we had combined with extremely limited cap space.

[Khyber53]

It never hurts to have an emergency fund on hand. That's enough to snag a top end candidate before trade deadlines in a position of emergency need and it's a fairly handy amount to roll over for next year.

I don't think there's much to see or speculate on here. 

[MHS831]

34 minutes ago, t96 said:

I thought about Norwell but there’s just no way we’d tie up that much money at guard, especially after paying biggish for C and having Morton coming up soon. Pay stud tackles, backfill on the interior.

He has been a bit of a bust there--we could get a good deal.

[JARROD]

Maybe we going to trade Rivera for Pete Carroll or Sean McVae,..

[Mr. Scot]

27 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

It was reported it that the moves were made to push extra cap space into next year. 

That's pretty much what I expected.

[TheRed]

You mention Luke and concussion in the same sentence you get poo but it's perfectly fine to speculate about Newton blowing out his shoulder the day before our season opener.

As much as things around here change they ultimately stay the same.

[thefuzz]

I'll scream when I see the deals, until then, I'm going to hope for the best.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

You mention Luke and concussion in the same sentence you get poo but it's perfectly fine to speculate about Newton blowing out his shoulder the day before our season opener.

As much as things around here change they ultimately stay the same.

Are you shouting at clouds?

Luke has concussion issues.  These are widely known, and I can't ever fault him for retiring if he has another.

Cam has shoulder issues.  This is widely known, and I can't fault him for retiring if he can't play a full 16+, and I won't fault him for sitting out a year to see if he can get 100% healthy.

Signing either of them to extensions right now would be a dumb move, unless Cam wants to take a MONSTER team friendly deal (and I wouldn't advise that) we need to sit tight.

 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, TheRed said:

You mention Luke and concussion in the same sentence you get poo but it's perfectly fine to speculate about Newton blowing out his shoulder the day before our season opener.

As much as things around here change they ultimately stay the same.

I talked about the possibility of Luke getting another concussion earlier in this very thread.

Nobody said a thing.

[Toomers]

29 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Are we really going to pretend that this off season didn't happen?  With a great over all draft (regardless of Grier opinion), and off season signings that shored up holes pretty well?

Just consider the most vocal issue people have right now is the back up QB position.  We went into the offseason with the following issues:

-People to actually convert the defense to 3-4

-FS

-SS 

-Most of the offensive line

-Extremely limited cap space

Will the moves work out?  Thats still to be seen.  But if we step back from the Hurney-Hate..he did as well as I could expect any GM with the huge amount of holes we had combined with extremely limited cap space.

And what does the draft or, and as you stated, moves from this year that we don’t know if they work out or not, have to do with contracts. Most of which i liked. 

 But he has already made bad decisions on Gano and Poe. What did he improve on contract wise. 

  And a draft where you look to get zero snaps from your 2nd thru 4th picks isn’t great overall. 

  Stating  a fact is Hurney-hate? What’s this  then? Blowing sunshine up people’s ass with a bazooka? 

[thefuzz]

3 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And what does the draft or, as you stated, moves from this year that we don’t know if they work out or not, have to do with contracts. Most of which i liked. 

 But he has already made bad decisions on Gano and Poe. What did he improve on contract wise. 

  And a draft where you look to get zero snaps from your 2nd thru 4th picks is great overall. 

  Stating  a fact is Hurney-hate? What’s this  then? Blowing sunshine up people’s ass with a bazooka? 

That's what I was wondering.  What good contracts has Hurney handed out so far that actually produced on the field?

As you said, we screwed up the Gano contract, Poe didn't do much, but I'll give him a bit of a pass.  Hurney F'd up the Davis and Olsen extensions....I'm not seeing much in his ability to scratch out good contracts so far.  Which was his biggest issues in version 1.0.

I am holding out hope on McCoy.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

6 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And what does the draft or, as you stated, moves from this year that we don’t know if they work out or not, have to do with contracts. Most of which i liked. 

Because we signed some great people to contracts that won't cripple us?  

6 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And a draft where you look to get zero snaps from your 2nd thru 4th picks is great overall. 

Wait..Are you mad that the Panthers aren't so horrible they don't have to rely on mid round draft picks?  Been a while since I have seen people complain that the Panthers are *too good*.

I fully expect to get snaps from players in rounds 2-4, btw.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

8 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Stating  a fact is Hurney-hate? What’s this  then? Blowing sunshine up people’s ass with a bazooka? 

But what facts are you stating?

You are ignoring the contracts of the off season.

You are pretending its a done deal that no one in rounds 2-4 drafted will get *any* snaps this entire season?

Most of your complaints seem non factual.  Or just ignoring facts.

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Because we signed some great people to contracts that won't cripple us?  

Wait..Are you mad that the Panthers aren't so horrible they don't have to rely on mid round draft picks?  Been a while since I have seen people complain that the Panthers are *too good*.

I fully expect to get snaps from players in rounds 2-4, btw.

In the draft? 

If Paradis or Reid don’t play well, they will cost plenty. 

 I’m sure have one of the worst LGs in the NFL, and a LT coming off injury who has never played the position before are really roadblocks for a player that cost an extra pick to get. Other players talent hasn’t been what keeps those players off the field.