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Why the h€££ did you not go after Clowney?


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With the news that Houston paid half his salary and that it basically cost them a 3rd plus throw ins, I would have definitely been in on that. My concern was paying him $16M which we didn’t have. We definitely could have made $8M work.

Now his list was supposedly just the Seahawks and Eagles but surely he could have been persuaded to come play at home.

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The problem is it's ultimately a one year rental.

Seattle has no guarantee Clowney signs an extension with them. Even if he does sign next year, any possible extension will be well over 100 million dollars if he has a big season.

Personally I absolutely would have liked to acquire Clowney, but realistically he is not worth Kalil Mack money, which is absolutely what he will end up commanding from Seattle if they intend on extending him.

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1. Why the H311 do you invest more into one of the deepest positions on the team

2. Why the H€€ do you trade for a guy who you cant come close to affording 

3. Why the H€€€ do you trade for a guy as injured prone for the price youll pay

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16 minutes ago, Bartin said:

With the news that Houston paid half his salary and that it basically cost them a 3rd plus throw ins, I would have definitely been in on that. My concern was paying him $16M which we didn’t have. We definitely could have made $8M work.

Now his list was supposedly just the Seahawks and Eagles but surely he could have been persuaded to come play at home.

How is that possible? He didn’t sign his tender until after the trade.... the texans didn’t have to pay him. 

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15 minutes ago, Bartin said:

With the news that Houston paid half his salary and that it basically cost them a 3rd plus throw ins, I would have definitely been in on that. My concern was paying him $16M which we didn’t have. We definitely could have made $8M work.

Now his list was supposedly just the Seahawks and Eagles but surely he could have been persuaded to come play at home.

He has been pushing for a new deal.  So yes, they are only paying. 8 off the current deal but he's wanting to get paid.  I believe he wasnt to happy with the franchise tag

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2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

The problem is it's ultimately a one year rental.

Seattle has no guarantee Clowney signs an extension with them. Even if he does sign next year, any possible extension will be well over 100 million dollars if he has a big season.

Personally I absolutely would have liked to acquire Clowney, but realistically he is not worth Kalil Mack money, which is absolutely what he will end up commanding from Seattle if they intend on extending him.

But the cost was just a 3rd round pick and if he walked after the year we would get a 3rd round comp pick which essentially makes the cost of acquiring him swapping a 2020 3rd for 2021 3rd comp.

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3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

How is that possible? He didn’t sign his tender until after the trade.... the texans didn’t have to pay him. 

He had to sign his tender before a trade was actually possible to complete. That’s how he was able to say no to the Dolphins. So the order of things is the two teams agreed to the terms, Clowney signs the tender with the Texans, the Texans bonus him $8M then they completed the trade which left Seattle with $8M to cover on the rest of his salary.

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