We should not be kicking extra points.

[Seoul_Panther]

59 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

In the coaches defense, cam newton completely busted on a game winning 2 pointer in Detroit last year.

I'm actually ok with a bold strategy of going for 2 more often but not all of the time -it should depend on match situation somewhat. That example is a case in point. We had hauled ourselves back into contention and would have had momentum going into overtime with an xp. 

  Early game when the result doesn't rest on the outcome it makes more sense to me.

[MHS831]

2 hours ago, TN05 said:

No coach is going for two every time because that is dumb and everyone knows it. It does not work. The math is not actually reflected in game results. Football is not math.

 Football is math if you are strategic.  That statement tells me that by arguing with you, facts are not going to be the tools you use.

• On second and long, the Patriots run the ball 38% of the time. 
• In this formation, the Dolphins pass 68% of the time.
• Boston takes bad angles.  (geometry, folks--Pythagoras could have played free safety). What about the 2 minute drill?  Timing routes?  
• How are linemen graded? 
• If we run the ball, and the average play takes 4 seconds, and it takes the team 10 seconds to get back to the line of scrimmage, can we spike the ball before the half ends? 

Probabilty and outcome--statistics---math.  Game management.  Coaching is anticipating what the opponent is going to do.Playing  is  knowing when  and where the ball is going to arrive.  You think Luke is just good at guessing what play is coming, or is he familiar with what is probable based on several variables--that is math, bro.---   Did you not know that?  But if you think it is dumb to score 2 points 48% of the time vs. scoring 1 point 92% of the time, you may not be the person who should be deciding what dumb is. 

I am done.  Your issue is not with me--you missed the point and ran with an alternative argument that you still lost. Just because you don't understand something that does not make it dumb.  Nor is it dumb to suggest something that increases your point total. The math I used was from football games--not hypothetical.   Read the links and come back.

[MHS831]

44 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

I'm actually ok with a bold strategy of going for 2 more often but not all of the time -it should depend on match situation somewhat. That example is a case in point. We had hauled ourselves back into contention and would have had momentum going into overtime with an xp. 

  Early game when the result doesn't rest on the outcome it makes more sense to me.

No--you should not do it all of the time.  For example, if I am up by seven with three minutes to go, the chance for success is 92% to put away the game.  If I went for 2, the chance for success is 48% to put away the game.  The number of points is unimportant.  

[panthers55]

So tonight we should practice both. Let's see who our kicker is going to be during the regular season before deciding what we should do.

[MHS831]

4 hours ago, panthers55 said:

So tonight we should practice both. Let's see who our kicker is going to be during the regular season before deciding what we should do.

We did convert one.  It looks like sending Gano to IR is probably going to happen.  If I were the coach, I want to see more.

[panthers55]

34 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

We did convert one.  It looks like sending Gano to IR is probably going to happen.  If I were the coach, I want to see more.

Yeah Slye earned a spot kicking 2 plus 50 yarders  tonight and going 8-8 in the preseason. We needed to give Slye extra point work after the field goal got blocked.