The Offensive Line

[Navy_football]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Exactly. Some apologists try so hard to make excuses simple logic eludes them.

Some haters will reach back 5+ years to pull an occasion that fits their argument - Cam should be perfect, all the time. 

[panthers55]

5 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Some haters will reach back 5+ years to pull an occasion that fits their argument - Cam should be perfect, all the time. 

Nah. There are a lot less haters than slob bobbers here. You folks just call anyone a hater if they do as you suggest and hold him to the same standard as everyone else.

[Toomers]

Just now, panthers55 said:

Nah. There are a lot less haters than slob bobbers here. You folks just call anyone a hater if they do as you suggest and hold him to the same standard as everyone else.

Sort of like you do with anyone who dares speak ill of anything related to the Panthers. 

  You calling anyone a slob-bobbers is the most ironic statement ever coming from the biggest homer on here. 

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

Sort of like you do with anyone who dares speak ill of anything related to the Panthers. 

  You calling anyone a slob-bobbers is the most ironic statement ever coming from the biggest homer on here. 

I admit I am a homer for the team. But not for a specific player which is when you are a slob bobber  like you are for Newton. I am a fan of the team and support the players and staff until they aren't here anymore. Plain and simple. But unlike many here I don't put a player above team or blame the staff when my favorite player screws up. Being a slob bobber and a homer are very different. Just one more thing you apparently don't know.

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I admit I am a homer for the team. But not for a specific player which is when you are a slob bobber  like you are for Newton. I am a fan of the team and support the players and staff until they aren't here anymore. Plain and simple. But unlike many here I don't put a player above team or blame the staff when my favorite player screws up. Being a slob bobber and a homer are very different. Just one more thing you apparently don't know.

The only difference I see is you swallow. And did you call me a Cam slob-bobber? Seriously? The only post I’ve made about Cam in 4 years is the pic of actual stats earlier. What the hell does that make you on every subject. Involving the Panthers. How many reach-a-rounds did you owe Shula by the time he finally left? Did you love him 3000? 

[TPanther920]

Newton is the QB for the Panthers. I am a Panthers fan. Therefore I support Newton. That does not mean I think he is infallible or doesn't need to improve.

[raz]

16 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I admit I am a homer for the team. But not for a specific player which is when you are a slob bobber  like you are for Newton. I am a fan of the team and support the players and staff until they aren't here anymore. Plain and simple. But unlike many here I don't put a player above team or blame the staff when my favorite player screws up. Being a slob bobber and a homer are very different. Just one more thing you apparently don't know.

damn racist cam hater  ;)   strangely it seems y'all are all kinda making the same point

[Navy_football]

17 minutes ago, TPanther920 said:

Newton is the QB for the Panthers. I am a Panthers fan. Therefore I support Newton. That does not mean I think he is infallible or doesn't need to improve.

I agree. Cam Newton needs to improve. Just like every other QB in the NFL.

[Navy_football]

41 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Nah. There are a lot less haters than slob bobbers here. You folks just call anyone a hater if they do as you suggest and hold him to the same standard as everyone else.

Sir. I assure you I have never slobbed anyone's bobber - or whatever that means.

Please don't resort to name calling. We were having a debate. Let's not turn it into a bitching session. 

[BigSyke]

Two things can be true at the same time. Cam needs to make faster/smarter decisions and the online needs to protect better. O cord could also mask weakness with great playcalling.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Would like to see the numbers on that versus passer rating since ratings gives little context. Plus the stat presented wasn't for the whole season just the first half,  right? In either case I have been asking for that kind of data for a year. I knew it had to be out there so we can at least have data instead of the old eyeball test.

That stat was for the season as a whole.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, raz said:

damn racist cam hater  ;)   strangely it seems y'all are all kinda making the same point

Whoa. Who said anything about racist Cam hater. I better return my three Cam jerseys and not wear them again

[panthers55]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That stat was for the season as a whole.

Was that 2018. Do you have anymore info. I don't have access to many of the analytics out there.

[AggieLean]

9 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Thank you. Don't know why anyone thinks the line should hold up under a blitz for 5 or 6 seconds.  It is on the QB, receivers and running backs to see the blitz coming and adjust the play or the protections to counter the blitz. People make so many excuses for Cam which ironically he would likely disagree with. He knows he needs to do better against the blitz or teams will keep blitzing until he can show people he can beat it.

Is Ron, Hurney, and Tepper making excuses for Cam as well?