Suppose Cam is done for 2019

[Navy_football]

2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

True that it takes both QBs and receivers to make it work. Given we are playing Blitzburg this week we should be working on these for sure whether Cam plays or not. 

Yes. And very tight coverage. Receivers have to grow up fast.

[pantherclaw]

9 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

That's not true. Most posters call Cam out when he is not playing well. 

If Brady was getting the pressure Cam was getting, it would have to be the oline fault when he didn't complete passes, right? It would have to be his receivers not being where they're supposed to be, right? 

Many times Cam can make a different decision or a quicker read, but he shouldn't have to be perfect. 

I expected this response. 

No one here is asking for Cam to be perfect. If you disagree, I have nothing more to say to you. 

[TheRed]

These toxic anti-Cam "fans" really think they are fooling someone like they are unbiased.

Must be really popular with their families.

Can pretty much bet the farm they vote straight ticket Republican too.

[Navy_football]

4 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

I expected this response. 

No one here is asking for Cam to be perfect. If you disagree, I have nothing more to say to you. 

You haven't really said anything in this thread so I don't know your stance. What's your expectation of Cam and what he needs to do to improve? Once I get your response, I'll know if you fall in the "expect Cam to be perfect" crowd. 

I see a physically gifted QB that has improved as a pure pocket passer. He's rarely had quality targets, playcalling or protection throughout his NFL career. 

I think he's playing at a high level right now. Not perfect. But at a very high level. I think this team wins because of Cam, not loses because of him. And he's playing well enough to win every game. Perfection isn't required from any one position because football is a team sport, where teammates pick you up. 

[!stUp]

17 minutes ago, TheRed said:

These toxic anti-Cam "fans" really think they are fooling someone like they are unbiased.

Must be really popular with their families.

Can pretty much bet the farm they vote straight ticket Republican too.

[CatTower]

21 minutes ago, TheRed said:

These toxic anti-Cam "fans" really think they are fooling someone like they are unbiased.

Must be really popular with their families.

Can pretty much bet the farm they vote straight ticket Republican too.

Wait, I thought we all wanted Kaep to start now.  If you're for Cam, I think that makes you Republican now.  It's hard to keep up.

[4Corners]

9 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

God forbid but Cam has hidden his ailments before.  If this injury affects his play, what next?

Do we rely on Allen to get us through?

Sign a Veteran?.... please don't say CK.

Or let Grier, the Rookie, gain valuable experience?

I for one think we sign a veteran.  This team is too talented to leave to a rookie.   If Allen can handle it, but most of you think he can't.

Who do we sign?

Stop posting. 

[RumHam]

10 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

God forbid but Cam has hidden his ailments before.  If this injury affects his play, what next?

Do we rely on Allen to get us through?

Sign a Veteran?.... please don't say CK.

Or let Grier, the Rookie, gain valuable experience?

I for one think we sign a veteran.  This team is too talented to leave to a rookie.   If Allen can handle it, but most of you think he can't.

Who do we sign?

We drafted grier for a reason. His ceiling is much higher. Kyle allen would last two games before getting hurt anyways bc this is a high school offensive line

[raz]

33 minutes ago, TheRed said:

These toxic anti-Cam "fans" really think they are fooling someone like they are unbiased.

Must be really popular with their families.

Can pretty much bet the farm they vote straight ticket Republican too.

dude.    

[raz]

well if they can hurt cam this year those other 2 aren't gonna be able to survive.  that's for damn sure.  hopefully the oline gets it worked out and he has some time, you know, or we're fugged

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, raz said:

dude.    

I'm done lying about what this distinctly southern based fanbase is, and isn't.

The mouthbreathers can kick rocks.

[raz]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

I'm done lying about what this distinctly southern based fanbase is, and isn't.

The mouthbreathers can kick rocks.

ok.  well i'm on the same side politically and all that as you, and you're not helping

[pantherclaw]

2 hours ago, Navy_football said:

You haven't really said anything in this thread so I don't know your stance. What's your expectation of Cam and what he needs to do to improve? Once I get your response, I'll know if you fall in the "expect Cam to be perfect" crowd. 

I see a physically gifted QB that has improved as a pure pocket passer. He's rarely had quality targets, playcalling or protection throughout his NFL career. 

I think he's playing at a high level right now. Not perfect. But at a very high level. I think this team wins because of Cam, not loses because of him. And he's playing well enough to win every game. Perfection isn't required from any one position because football is a team sport, where teammates pick you up. 

Cam is an once in a lifetime ability, whom must constantly work on his fundamentals. It's his biggest issue. He's incredibly inconstant. He has improved every year, and I expect to continue improving. 

 

[PantherPhann89]

Personally I like Heinicke better than Allen        Att        Comp    Yds    Will Grier 43 23 196 53.5 4.6 1 2.3 2 4.7 27 3 31 54.0 Kyle Allen 28 14 124 50.0 4.4 0 0.0 0 0.0 17 4 25 62.2 Taylor Heinicke 21 12 113 57.1 5.4 1 4.8 0 0.0 21 1 14 88.0 Cam Newton 6 4 30 66.7 5.0 0 0.0 0 0.0 13 2 17 78.5