Reids dirty hit on Watson

[Harbingers]

1 hour ago, Iron Saint said:

who’s been classified as a defenseless player since before Reid even crossed the 40-yard line...

Let any pass rusher take two steps to hit a QB after they’ve already thrown the ball and it’ll get flagged for 15 yards every single time. No difference here.

Really? That’s the best your gonna do? He was a runner with the football. That is completely different than a QB who has already thrown a ball.

I know you pansy ass saints think everything should be flag football and nobody should be allowed to touch your receivers/QB but that’s not how football works. Watson took 8 steps plus a juke at the beginning. He’s not defenseless. 

The only reason Reid was flagged was because it was a hit to the head. 

[GoobyPls]

Meh....I see that hit happen every Sunday. Based on the new rule they imposed last year it does deserve a flag.

 

 

 

[Iron Saint]

3 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Really? That’s the best your gonna do? He was a runner with the football. That is completely different than a QB who has already thrown a ball.

I know you pansy ass saints think everything should be flag football and nobody should be allowed to touch your receivers/QB but that’s not how football works. Watson took 8 steps plus a juke at the beginning. He’s not defenseless. 

The only reason Reid was flagged was because it was a hit to the head. 

Wrong, at that point he was a defenseless player which is exactly what the QB is treated as after the ball is thrown unless if he runs downfield and attempts to get re-involved in the play. So no, it isn't completely different.

After he came into contact with the two Panthers defenders and he stumbled, the instant his elbow hit the ground the play was over and he was classified as a defenseless player. End of story.

I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand.

From the rule book about when the play is ruled dead...

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SECTION 2 - DEAD BALL

ARTICLE 1. DEAD BALL DECLARED

An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:

1. when a runner is contacted by an opponent and touches the ground with any part of his body other than his hands or feet. The ball is dead the instant the runner touches the ground. A runner touching the ground with his hands or feet while in the grasp of an opponent may continue to advance; or
   Note: If, after contact by an opponent, any part of a runner’s leg above the ankle or any part of his arm above the wrist touches the ground, the runner is down.

Watson contacted two Panthers defenders and stumbled with his elbow hitting the ground. Therefore by the rule book, the play was dead at that instant. Reid was still ~5 yards away as evidenced in the previously posted screenshots.

Now about the defenseless posture...

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ARTICLE 9. PLAYERS IN A DEFENSELESS POSTURE

It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.

1. Players in a defenseless posture are:
   1. A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture).
   2. A receiver running a pass route when the defender approaches from the side or behind. If the receiver becomes a blocker or assumes a blocking posture, he is no longer a defenseless player.
   3. A receiver attempting to catch a pass who has not had time to clearly become a runner. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player.
   4. The intended receiver of a pass in the action during and immediately following an interception or potential interception. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player.
      Note: Violations of this provision will be enforced after the interception, and the intercepting team will maintain possession.
   5. A runner already in the grasp of a tackler and whose forward progress has been stopped.
   6. A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air.
   7. A player on the ground.

I believe we'd all agree that Watson falls under the category of both #5 and #7, correct? At minimum #7 considering he was laying on his back.

Furthermore...

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1. Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:
   1. forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him;

I also linked those sections of the rule book for you in case you need some bathroom reading because you obviously have a tenuous grasp on what's legal and what's illegal.

[TheRed]

Comical seeing Saints fans posturing about dirty hits after the colossal disaster that was bountygate.

Your favorite sports franchise paid guys to hurt other players while your head coach was popping pills like candy.

Take your swamp rat ass back to Saints report.

[saints4lifeagain]

I’ll say this. The hit looks a lot worse than I originally thought from other angles. He lined him up on the ground. 

Still find it funny that Reid is such a lightning rod of controversy because of who he affiliates himself with. It was a poo hit and Reid’s got a little bit of a rep for it at this point but so do a number of guys in the league, past and present. 

[LegioX]

22 hours ago, CarolinaCat89 said:

*** you Reid haters, he was all over the field and always by the ball. He's the best piece of secondary we got.

Donte Jackson like a word with you.

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

Here is a nice comment from an AInts fan about Eric Reid and Keanu Neal of Falcons.

" Both were obviously illegal hits.
Both were obviously intentional.
Reid's may have been premeditated."

" I think both of those players should be suspended and their(Panthers and Falcons) organizations disbanded... sent to the XFL. Their stadiums cut up and sold for scrap iron. I'd say something about their fanbases, but honestly, ATL don't have one and I have always sorta felt sorry for the Carolina fans. All these years having to pretend their cool with Newton's antics. (and fashion). "

Aints sure have a lot of room to talk since their organization sanctioned dirty hits at any cost hurting opponents players.

[Kuhndog94]

On 8/23/2019 at 9:39 AM, saints4lifeagain said:

That was an enforcer hit?

These guys will talk all day about bounty gate but when Reid takes a cheap shot based on a previous feud, it's an "enforcer hit." 

It seems cheap shots only apply when someone they don't like does it. If Devin McCourty did that to Greg, the comments here would be very different. 

[Shotgun]

4 hours ago, LegioX said:

Donte Jackson like a word with you.

So would Bradberry.

[The Question]

Let the hate flow through you old closet racist boomers. Let it flowwww.

[Bytes]

On 8/23/2019 at 8:32 AM, Paa Langfart said:

Reid is all about Reid.  If you think he gives two shits about this team you are mistaken.

Give me an example Reid being all about Reid. 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

7 minutes ago, Bytes said:

Give me an example Reid being all about Reid. 

[PhillyB]

remember when julius peppers slobberknocked aaron rodgers a few years back and a bunch of boomers with 90s rush limbaugh politics ran in microanalyzing the three frames separating a good hit from a bad one and tut-tuting violent smash-mouth football plays?

yeah i don't either

[ickmule]

Some of y’all really need to find hobbies. I don’t like Reid because I think he is an attention whore, but sometimes you gotta knock the $hit of of a guy.  Guaranteed most receivers will be looking for him every snap knowing he might take their head off.