3-4 will kill us

[panthers55]

19 hours ago, ellis said:

The 34 is a bit of a problem. You’re taking some of your best players and neutralizing their strengths. McCoy and Short are not natural fits for this. Kuechly is not a natural fit for this. 

I’m not saying I hate the idea. I think this becomes more of a situational look. Takes time to build a traditional 34. And there will be growing pains.

What exactly is McCoys strength in a 4-3 that is a liability in a 3-4. The biggest transition is not linemen but linebacker. Are we running a 1 gap or 2 gap 3-4?  That determines the run fits.

[Sasquatch]

23 hours ago, Cracka McNasty said:

It was the preseason and we held the defending champs to 10 points.

I'd be more concerned that the offense only scored 3. 

D gave up 22 first downs 37 minute possession. No cause for concern here?

PS: 12 of those 1st downs 20 minutes possession and almost 200 yards in the first half against our projected starters.

Obviously, 3 & outs don't help but .....

[TheRumGone]

26 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

D gave up 22 first downs 37 minute possession. No cause for concern here?

Against Tom Brady? No not really. Dude is always going to eat, it’s minimizing damage/points. 

[panthers55]

36 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Let’s not forget had badly our 4-3 got gashed in running game LY

and LY we had no pressure 

thought our secondary was good Thursday 

shaq still out of position a lot and saw him got knocked backwards a few times 

new scheme...we will figure it out...too many good players on def

That is part of the issue. On a 3-4 more linemen and fullbacks will reach the second level. Linebackers have to be able to shed blockers to get to the runner. Plus instead of trying to get pressure all the time the 3 down linemen need to secure the gap first and then focus on rushing the passer not go full tilt toward the QB. Most sacks in a 3-4 come from the linebackers not the down linemen.

[JARROD]

1 hour ago, Sasquatch said:

D gave up 22 first downs 37 minute possession. No cause for concern here?

PS: 12 of those 1st downs 20 minutes possession and almost 200 yards in the first half against our projected starters.

Obviously, 3 & outs don't help but .....

Well it’s also relative to your offense putting drives together.

id have to go back and count again but I think we only had like 3-4 drives that weren’t 3 and outs.

thats how you kill a defense...even if they are great.

[JawnyBlaze]

On 8/23/2019 at 5:41 PM, La Pantera said:

We're still using a lot of 4-3. 

Yea but did seem we were using it more than the first two games. Maybe those games were live fire testing our 3-4 and vs the Patriots will more of a true indicator of the ratio

[MountaineerChemist10]

On ‎8‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 10:18 AM, BrianS said:

You know what, after going back and looking at the stats, I am not nearly as down on our defense.

The Pats had almost twice as many offensive plays as we did.  We had SIX DRIVES that were 3 and out!  That's plain horrific!  You cannot put your defense on the field for twice as many plays - against the defending champs no less - and expect to do well.  Our defense played a terrific bend but don't break game all things considered.

Oh, and Brian Burns is the (*&$@ing TRUTH.  I'm not sure why he isn't starting.

Ron probably wants Burns to "earn" his way up to starting lineup instead of starting him right away. Did the same with Shaq, Butler (ugh), even CMC. He'll be rotating with Mario & Bruce Irving a lot throughout the year.