Butler Chicago Breakdown

[TheSpecialJuan]

20 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   Is this the guy who wrote this?

Sure is, he's terrific 

[My Goodness My Guinness]

The way people were talking, I was expecting to see Butler face down in the dirt every snap. Eh, like someone else mentioned, seems like he's been asked to play against his strengths out of necessity. Would be interesting if he could lose like 20 lbs and get some looks at 3-4 DE more. 

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, My Goodness My Guinness said:

The way people were talking, I was expecting to see Butler face down in the dirt every snap. Eh, like someone else mentioned, seems like he's been asked to play against his strengths out of necessity. Would be interesting if he could lose like 20 lbs and get some looks at 3-4 DE more. 

      Face down in the dirt is actually better than his current method of turning his back to the OL and being washed multiple gaps away from the gap he’s responsible for. I’m still curious what these “strengths” are. 

[4Corners]

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Shortly after being kicked out of the film school at prestigious NYU for groping a stagehand, Vincent was hospitalized after ODing on too many CBD oil infused gummy bears. 

[Basbear]

Thanks @RoaringRiot

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Heres my deal- In these breakdowns what gets overlooked, whom his competition is. Bunch of backups and he did not stand out and has not in the last 3 full years. If you changed his number and name, he looks like a third stringer that was drafted in the Seventh round. At this stage it doesnt matter much if hes on the 53 or cut(Tho i hope panthers find a better player). Just disappointing cause he truly has the best physical tool kit on the panthers and its year 3(i judge starting year 2). He hasnt got better and is a iffy inactive each game-day. 

[Malt Liquor]

Bottom line is if The Panthers want a NFL champship level team. Vernon Butler hasn't shown any signs of being worthy of being on the roster. Yes he is big and strong I guess. Maybe he can be a star in Canada. So far in the NFL, I just don't see it.

[beastson]

1st round pick. No, I'm not going to accept him as a rotational player... not on this team.

[Seltzer]

All we need is for Butler to be a solid rotational piece this year.  

Butler has more to gain than the team does b/c this is a contract year for him

I hope for both parties we are pleasantly surprised by his play this year.

[mc52beast]

Was hoping he would be on the Bills plane back to NY

[LinvilleGorge]

His roster spot might be dependent on what other DL get released around the league. Even if he makes our initial 53, I'm not sure he'll stick there long if the right vet fit is available.

[micnificent28]

He's a flat out disappointment. That said.. he probably is better than any street meat we pickup after cuts.. most won't have his natural ability.. and who know maybe the light..nah he's a bust.. but he's our own bust sadly... he's a jag.

[pantherclaw]

Most fans, will always consider him a bust because where he was draft. Or they bring up love as an example of an undrafted playing playing better. 

At this point, I really don't care where he was drafted.  It's a moot point. Especially if you look at the draft as just another means of acquiring talent.  

He's on the team, he's not costing us much, and he is a part of a rotation that gives us one of the best defensive lines in the league. 

Eventually the team will move on, and the fans will find somebody else to complain about. 

Year after year, it never changes. 

[manu4t]

I think this is one of the most objectively analytical pieces on Butler I have seen, very good work.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

3 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Most fans, will always consider him a bust because where he was draft. Or they bring up love as an example of an undrafted playing playing better. 

At this point, I really don't care where he was drafted.  It's a moot point. Especially if you look at the draft as just another means of acquiring talent.  

He's on the team, he's not costing us much, and he is a part of a rotation that gives us one of the best defensive lines in the league. 

Eventually the team will move on, and the fans will find somebody else to complain about. 

Year after year, it never changes. 

Very good take.  If he were a 4th or 5th rounder there would likely be no real discussion.  Hind sight is a bitch but sunk cost is sunk cost.   He’s on the roster and we are better off keeping him than letting him go at this point in time.