I bet the dome is coming within 5 years...

[SBiii]

23 hours ago, Pimpdaddy said:

...been saying i smell a PSL ***** comin with new stadium talk... how will he weather alienating 62K...We have a fickle fan base...hate to see the stadium leave down town...oh btw..fug soccer....Panthers cross the border i most likely wont see another live game... i like the experience of downtown.... to me it would be embarrassing on MNF and the announcer says: 'Live from Rock Hill'

Good post.

You know, it was only good news all the time for the Charlotte Hornets (not the Bobcats we have now) and for a decade the team set NBA attendance records and there was a gigantic love-fest that appeared it would never end....

....and then the owner made some bad decisions, and the fans abandoned the team.

History has a habit of repeating itself....

....Tepper better tread lightly.

[Ja Rhule]

2 minutes ago, SBiii said:

Good post.

You know, it was only good news all the time for the Charlotte Hornets (not the Bobcats we have now) and for a decade the team set NBA attendance records and there was a gigantic love-fest that appeared it would never end....

....and then the owner made some bad decisions, and the fans abandoned the team.

History has a habit of repeating itself....

....Tepper better tread lightly.

And then they built arena anyways and looked like a fuging fools

[SBiii]

8 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

One word “Atlanta”

Exception, not the rule.

I don't think u have been paying attention.

"In the ten years between 2007 and 2017, ten more soccer-specific stadiums were built for MLS clubs. Currently, 14 teams play in venues that are soccer-specific (Portland’s Providence Park is included because though it was originally built for baseball, it was later renovated specifically for soccer usage, and Toronto’s BMO Field is not included because it was renovated in 2016 to add CFL football).

Soccer-specific is also the dominant model for expansion in the near term. In 2018, D.C. United is moving from multi-purpose RFK Stadium to Audi Stadium, and new franchise LAFC will begin play at soccer-specific Banc of California Stadium. Minnesota United FC will move to their new purpose-built stadium, Allianz Field, in 2019. Miami is also expected to build a soccer-specific stadium in the near future to accommodate an MLS franchise.

Even with Atlanta as a notable outlier, clearly the league still believes in the soccer-specific stadium model. Garber’s statement does, however, leave the door of opportunity slightly ajar for other multi-use stadiums in the future.

MLS is a league built on fan experience. Though attendance is strong and getting stronger, television viewership has not kept pace. The league’s fans seem to prefer seeing games in person rather than on a screen, which is a potential pitfall, but one that can be tackled in time.

Commissioner Garber is right to suggest soccer-specific stadium development is what has transformed the MLS. It has been perhaps the prime driver of MLS growth in the last 15 years.

It is also very likely that the story of the league’s growth from this point forward will depend on maintaining and expanding the model of fan experience afforded by soccer-specific stadiums. The future health of the league depends on it."

https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2017/12/soccer-specific-stadiums-key-to-mls-past-and-future/

"The MLS has told bidders it wants a modern, dedicated soccer stadium in or near downtowns."

https://www.wfae.org/post/city-committee-declines-countys-offer-memorial-stadium-mls#stream/0

But that interest, even from a major sports owner like Tepper, isn't enough on its own. MLS requires bidding groups to have a plan for a soccer-specific stadium.

https://www.wcnc.com/article/sports/report-charlotte-very-much-in-play-for-mls-expansion-as-opposing-group-plans-19b-stadium/275-33b2cb2c-0a8e-409f-9a65-c88547252262

Watch and listen to the video in that last article linked.  The local press has chosen to ignore the issue (a soccer specific stadium that is).

 

 

[SBiii]

9 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

And then they built arena anyways and looked like a fuging fools

Yeah they did, against the wishes of the voting public.

And then the NBA put a team in it that has only lost....lost games....lost money, lots of it.

[SBiii]

21 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

Good job.  You paid for the stadium in 1995 and now new owner wants to destroy and build new stadium that will be paid by new PSL owners.

I didn't.  I'm a Charlottean but lived in NYC then, didn't contribute a dime to that stadium.

Do you believe Tepper will be able to line up 70,000 folks to pay for PSL's?

Will you do so?

I don't think he can.  PSL's are a one-and-done deal in a town the size of Charlotte (especially given his misreading of the political climate).

[Ja Rhule]

You are missing the point...  soccer fields are larger than NFL fields.  That’s why MLS does not want to settle to play on NFL field. Atlanta is designed for MLS because it’s large enough.  Tepper wants the same.

[CatTower]

3 minutes ago, SBiii said:

I didn't.  I'm a Charlottean but lived in NYC then, didn't contribute a dime to that stadium.

Do you believe Tepper will be able to line up 70,000 folks to pay for PSL's?

Will you do so?

I don't think he can.  PSL's are a one-and-done deal in a town the size of Charlotte (especially given his misreading of the political climate).

???  Charlotte is one of the fastest growing cities.  Do you know how many more people live around the Charlotte area now compared to when the stadium was built?  If the PSLs were selling then, they will sell now for a new stadium.  

[Ja Rhule]

Just now, SBiii said:

I didn't.  I'm a Charlottean but lived in NYC then, didn't contribute a dime to that stadium.

Do you believe Tepper will be able to line up 70,000 folks to pay for PSL's?

Will you do so?

I don't think he can.  PSL's are a one-and-done deal in a town the size of Charlotte (especially given his misreading of the political climate).

You are missing the point again.  #1 season tickets will be cheaper due to MLS #2 Charlotte metro area is almost 3 million people so 70k people in immaterial  #3 Companies will be buying PSLs like crazy.  

My buddy and I already agreed to buy 6 PSLs whenever MLS team arrives.

[SBiii]

1 minute ago, ARSEN said:

You are missing the point...  soccer fields are larger than NFL fields.  That’s why MLS does not want to settle to play on NFL field. Atlanta is designed for MLS because it’s large enough.  Tepper wants the same.

I'm not missing anything.  You need to go read the linked articles. 

MLS wants to be standalone and don't want their teams to play in stadiums that are 65% empty.....which would be the case here --- Charlotte is no Atlanta from a population perspective, overall and in terms of folks who are invested in soccer.

[Ja Rhule]

1 minute ago, CatTower said:

???  Charlotte is one of the fastest growing cities.  Do you know how many more people live around the Charlotte area now compared to when the stadium was built?  If the PSLs were selling then, they will sell now for a new stadium.  

Panthers also offer interest free financing for like 5 years... PSL cost like $20 a month lol...

[Ja Rhule]

1 minute ago, SBiii said:

I'm not missing anything.  You need to go read the linked articles. 

MLS wants to be standalone and don't want their teams to play in stadiums that are 65% empty.....which would be the case here --- Charlotte is no Atlanta from a population perspective, overall and in terms of folks who are invested in soccer.

Look at my avatar homeslice.

Only if done could have a curtain that completely covers top section to make it look like it does not exist...

[SBiii]

1 minute ago, ARSEN said:

You are missing the point again.  #1 season tickets will be cheaper due to MLS #2 Charlotte metro area is almost 3 million people so 70k people in immaterial  #3 Companies will be buying PSLs like crazy.  

My buddy and I already agreed to buy 6 PSLs whenever MLS team arrives.

I am not missing anything....you are completely overestimating, everything!

Look, it's clear we will not find any common ground so let's bag it at this point....

....only time will tell which of us are correct. 

Good luck with plowing a bunch of hard earned $$$'s into PSL's --- I am going to decline to do so (assuming the scenario ever develops, which is a longshot) and believe that should I desire to attend a game, with all costs factored in I will be able buy tickets from you at a discount vs. what you have invested in them.

Cheers mate.

[jbland]

33 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

One word “Atlanta”

And seattle. 

[Ja Rhule]

3 minutes ago, SBiii said:

I am not missing anything....you are completely overestimating, everything!

Look, it's clear we will not find any common ground so let's bag it at this point....

....only time will tell which of us are correct. 

Good luck with plowing a bunch of hard earned $$$'s into PSL's --- I am going to decline to do so (assuming the scenario ever develops, which is a longshot) and believe that should I desire to attend a game, with all costs factored in I will be able buy tickets from you at a discount vs. what you have invested in them.

Cheers mate.

I’m overestimating everything and find common ground?  Oh hell naw...  get your ass back in here.  I’m just starting.

Netflix $17 a month.  PSL $25 a month. Starbucks $6 per latte.