Tepper Wants a Retractable Dome Stadium

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Make the other poor bastard pay for it.

This whole "let's just use the tourism tax dollars" seems like a painless way to have your cake and eat it too.

But is it?

Just about any hotel you stay at these days has some sort of tourism tax added to the bill.  So while you might not be paying for the Panthers new home directly, go to Dallas, San Francisco, New Orleans, Atlanta, NYC or Chicago and their local government will be reaching into your pockets to finance some project that politicians were unable to convince their constituents was worth yet another tax increase.

Tourism taxes are a nothing more than a government shell game.

The people most negatively affected have no say in their being taxed (and just about anyone who travels is paying for somebody else's stadium).

Just like the tea tax, it's taxation without representation. 

You know, the very reason Americans rebelled against their English overlords.

[Tbe]

6 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Make the other poor bastard pay for it.

This whole "let's just use the tourism tax dollars" seems like a painless way to have your cake and eat it too.

But is it?

Just about any hotel you stay at these days has some sort of tourism tax added to the bill.  So while you might not be paying for the Panthers new home directly, go to Dallas, San Francisco, New Orleans, Atlanta, NYC or Chicago and their local government will be reaching into your pockets to finance some project that politicians were unable to convince their constituents was worth yet another tax increase.

Tourism taxes are a nothing more than a government shell game.

The people most negatively affected have no say in their being taxed (and just about anyone who travels is paying for somebody else's stadium).

Just like the tea tax, it's taxation without representation. 

You know, the very reason Americans rebelled against their English overlords.

You’re right that it is a shell game. It’s an added cost to attending that game, concert, etc that’s people don’t feel directly. Tepper could raise the same amount of money by just raising ticket prices or venue booking fees. It’s all part of the cost of attendance right? Of course, people will complain about higher ticket costs so it’s safer to get the money via a fee on their hotel bill. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

5 minutes ago, Tbe said:

You’re right that it is a shell game. It’s an added cost to attending that game, concert, etc that’s people don’t feel directly. Tepper could raise the same amount of money by just raising ticket prices or venue booking fees. It’s all part of the cost of attendance right? Of course, people will complain about higher ticket costs so it’s safer to get the money via a fee on their hotel bill. 

I know it is a crazy thought, but why not just charge the people that are directly benefiting from the stadium rather than picking the pockets of people that might never see the stadium much less use it?

Your right, fans will complain.  Too bad.

If you don't think the cost of admission is worth it, don't go.

[thefuzz]

Actually, @Tbe I think that you have changed my mind.

I am in favor of a tax to help the obscenely wealthy and large business who may want some of that as well to move into the area.

Let's do a referendum voted on the 2020 Pres ballot.  The tax would be a sales tax, or a raised property tax for all of those living in Meck county.

[Billy Love]

11 hours ago, NAS said:

Anyone who thinks we're in a position to negotiate just needs to look at the St. Louis Rams.  Having a professional NFL team is a big deal and we shouldn't act like we're irreplaceable as a market.  I am completely fine with Tepper's proposal.  He wants to share the risk and the benefits.  Sounds like a fair deal to me.  

100% correct...well said.

[Tbe]

4 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Actually, @Tbe I think that you have changed my mind.

I am in favor of a tax to help the obscenely wealthy and large business who may want some of that as well to move into the area.

Let's do a referendum voted on the 2020 Pres ballot.  The tax would be a sales tax, or a raised property tax for all of those living in Meck county.

I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind or win some debate. Just trying to have a discussion.

[Growl]

5 hours ago, AKPantherFan said:

Small minded. The city benefits.... millions of dollars. 

lol are you aware how much an nfl stadium costs

[Palmetto]

58 minutes ago, bull123 said:

It’s gonna be CLT vs Rock Hill

Agree 

Better than worrying about the team moving to OKC or something

[SBiii]

6 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

I know it is a crazy thought, but why not just charge the people that are directly benefiting from the stadium rather than picking the pockets of people that might never see the stadium much less use it?

Your right, fans will complain.  Too bad.

If you don't think the cost of admission is worth it, don't go.

Let the immutable laws of Supply & Demand prevail --- what a novel concept!

[SBiii]

2 hours ago, bull123 said:

It’s gonna be CLT vs Rock Hill

Same thing really.  Would be way easier to get in and out of a stadium in Rock Hill, sounds like a great option.

[Snake]

13 hours ago, bull123 said:

A possibility...CLT City Council gonna fight the funding...raleigh will have to get involved

I can tell you rock Hill won't. Cheaper taxes for the players too. 

[CatMan72]

Tepper is talking about using hotel tax, so the only taxpayers that would be funding the new stadium are people staying in hotels.

[thefuzz]

3 hours ago, CatMan72 said:

Tepper is talking about using hotel tax, so the only taxpayers that would be funding the new stadium are people staying in hotels.

Correct, the people least likely to use and benefit from said thing are going to be paying for it.

 

[SBiii]

3 hours ago, CatMan72 said:

Tepper is talking about using hotel tax, so the only taxpayers that would be funding the new stadium are people staying in hotels.

Ur kiddin right?

If $1bn in tax revs r switched from the city acct 2 Teppers pocket u will either receive less in the way of city services, or pay more in taxes.

Comprehensive article on fallacy of public funding of stadiums.

https://reason.com/2018/02/03/the-super-bowl-brought-to-you-by-taxpaye/?amp