DeAngelo Williams Hating on Cam Newton

[TheRumGone]

1 minute ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

In a vacuum you are freaking joking if you think that Buffalo and San Francisco wouldn't trade Josh Allen or Jimmy Garoppolo for Cam.

The thing is though we live in the real world where there are jobs and egos on the line.  SF paid dearly for Garoppolo and Allen is considered the future of the Bills.  If either of those FOs cut and ran like that they'd look stupid as poo.

I understand real world things but these are hypotheticals. This is a Cam vs. other qb

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Just now, TheRumGone said:

I understand real world things but these are hypotheticals. This is a Cam vs. other qb

It's more of a response to him than you, I agree with what you're saying.  If you just compare raw stats (as he basically defended DeAngelo by doing) then it's no contest if you compare Cam to say, Josh Allen.  Or poo Joe Flacco in Denver, another career mid-80s QB rating guy without the mobility, to Cam.

[Basbear]

While it was one best years in NFL history, Mahomes is the only no question pick for every team not named KC. Still it was just one year, he could fall back to earth this year. There are a few debates on about 10 QBs, age, system, fit, along with many factors. 

After the 2015 season, I would dare everyone to admit to trade Cam for anyone. 

[stirs]

And by the way, DWill talks like a teenage girl

[Bytes]

31 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

just because you say “no” doesn’t make it true.

Well, that is an opinion... But if you just look at Cam's passing numbers, and their is a huge 8 year sample size, he is just not that good. Those are just facts. You can talk about O-line , receivers, weather, whatever... its about production. 
The funny thing is if you just watch Cam throw the ball , its pretty clear his inaccuracies are more about his mechanics than the oline or receivers. Maybe that changes this year..time will tell. 

[OneBadCat]

3 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

For d will’s standards that wasn’t that bad of salt tbh

i mean this coming from a guy who calls out the panthers org on social media the day after Cat Man dies. Using someone’s death for your own personal vendetta shows the type of person he is. His mother would be ashamed.

Yeah honestly I didn't think it was that bad for DWill crybaby standards. That said DWill only stays relevant by hating on his old team.

[Rocky Davis]

5 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

"He only got MVP once in 9 seasons...." Man, DeAngelo comes off really dumb right there.....

How many seasons did DeAngelo play? 

[Rocky Davis]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

dwill when talkin about the panthers=

 

DWill had this installed under his house when he got released by the Panthers BTW.  Only the best for my man DeAngelo!

[ForJimmy]

46 minutes ago, stirs said:

Dallas, Philly, NYG - no     Washington might be your only taker but they just drafted their future?

We already discussed the NFC South with Tampa being the only yes.

Chicago, GB, Detroit- no   Minny might

Seattle, LA, San Fran and AZ, all no

NE, Buffalo - no   Miami and Jets might be interested

Pitt, Cleveland and Baltimore -no    Cincy might

Texas, Tennessee and Jax  - no   Indy might, but who in the right mind in Carolina would want the Geico caveman

Denver, KC, San Diego - no  Oakland, who knows what Gruden might do.

 

 

I count maybe 25% of the league willing to switch.  Take off Homer glasses and pretend you live in Nebraska or something for a few mins.  Everyone thinks their kid is the cutest in the class, but for outsiders, meh

 

 

I gave stats and reasons why. You simply stated “no.” So I take your “No”and raise you a “Yes!” However, as I stated earlier, his shoulder injury would be a red flag. Healthy Cam is no question on the wish list of most NFL teams. Norv Turner came out of retirement to coach a generational talent like Cam. He was stuck with Mike Shula as his OC most of his career and still put up some staggering stats. (And Shula is now demoted to QB coach for the Giants... what a year they had...)

[stirs]

9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I gave stats and reasons why. You simply stated “no.” So I take your “No”and raise you a “Yes!” However, as I stated earlier, his shoulder injury would be a red flag. Healthy Cam is no question on the wish list of most NFL teams. Norv Turner came out of retirement to coach a generational talent like Cam. He was stuck with Mike Shula as his OC most of his career and still put up some staggering stats. (And Shula is now demoted to QB coach for the Giants... what a year they had...)

So to you, all but 4 teams in the NFL would jump at the chance to trade QB's?

[tiger7_88]

lol... so many purported “fans” virtue signaling in this thread in preparation for potential 2019 CYA. 

Some of’em now using the “I’m not the kinda guy who thinks Cam is perfect!” strawman that they used to mock... hilarious.

[CPF4LIFE]

Im just as tired of Stephen A and his stupid assessments of cam as well. Always saying cams mvp season was because of the defense and trying to diminish his credit. He pointed out the fact that they we were 6th in the league that season....last time i checked that doesnt equal the best. Seattle and arizona actually finished in the top 5 of defense ahead of us so why didnt they go 15-1 or to the superbowl? Oh thats right, we beat them cuz we had the MVP. 

[PleaseCutStewart]

Just when I think KB takes the reigns as biggest ex-Panther douche, Deangelo decides to come crawl out of whatever cave he has been in to one-up KB on the douche scale...

[PleaseCutStewart]

45 minutes ago, Bytes said:

Well, that is an opinion... But if you just look at Cam's passing numbers, and their is a huge 8 year sample size, he is just not that good. Those are just facts. You can talk about O-line , receivers, weather, whatever... its about production. 
The funny thing is if you just watch Cam throw the ball , its pretty clear his inaccuracies are more about his mechanics than the oline or receivers. Maybe that changes this year..time will tell. 

I would love to see how Tom Brady would have done with the crap receivers and mostly crap O-line (definitely left side) Cam has had to play with for the 8 year sample and see how the stats, W-L record, etc. would compare.

Sure, Cam's footwork is awful, but he still has the arm strength (at least for now) to compensate for it, but still does lead to the occasional overthrow. How many times over the past few years has he thrown to the elite WRs (cough...cough....) like Clay, Bersin, Byrd, KB, Funch, Philly Brown, Cotchery, and whatever other average or worse WRs and had it hit their hands and drop it, or even worse, deflect it up in the air for the other team to pick off. It's pretty sad when Ted Ginn was one of our best wide receivers from 2014-2017. We haven't even factored in all the dumb playcalling of Shula he had to endure... You know, the run, run, 3rd and long send everyone on a fly route, punt playcalling that we adored...