NFL.com ranks top ten teams of the decade

[mc52beast]

Surprisingly they have the Panthers 2015 team at #2. Not surprised because they don’t deserve it, surprised because this team gets very little respect and was called the worst 15-1 team everhttp://bleacherreport.com/post/carolina-panthers/977b717e-a6e2-444e-bf1c-6f9119a43140

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

2014 Patriots should be number one. After that the 2013 Seahawks.

[LinvilleGorge]

Honestly, that makes it sting even worse. We had the second best team of the decade and we let Shula completely drop the ball and cost us a Lombardi.

[Manther]

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, that makes it sting even worse. We had the second best team of the decade and we let Shula completely drop the ball and cost us a Lombardi.

Yup.  I need a beer.

[Asurfaholic]

40 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, that makes it sting even worse. We had the second best team of the decade and we let Shula completely drop the ball and cost us a Lombardi.

We let Shula do what? What could “we” have done differently? Shula led us to the 15-1 you think “we” should have fired Shula and hired a new OC between championship and super bowl?

 

I don’t think I’m being justly compensated for my part in these high level discussions either. Who can I file a complaint with? 

[cookinbrak]

Why does it say NFL.com about a crappy bleacherreport story? I can never tell which days BR is good and when its bad.

[LinvilleGorge]

13 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

We let Shula do what? What could “we” have done differently? Shula led us to the 15-1 you think “we” should have fired Shula and hired a new OC between championship and super bowl?

 

I don’t think I’m being justly compensated for my part in these high level discussions either. Who can I file a complaint with? 

In your snark you inadvertently hot the nail on the head. What we could've done differently is literally anything. Broncos players expressed their complete disbelief after the game that we changed up absolutely nothing on offense. Not a single wrinkle added. This after Vic Beasley completely exposed the reality that Mike Remmers absolutely could not handle a speed rusher off the edge in our line regular season loss. Why Shula thought he could handle Von Miller I'll never know. Why he never waivered from his typical approach of keeping in extra blockers and running the same routes instead of trying to switch things up and get some screens or other quick hitting routes going. It was quite obvious Shula had no plan C after his typical A and B plans that the Broncos had dialed from film study.

[Asurfaholic]

Sounds to me like Remmers dropped the ball. Maybe if he had done his part Shula would have looked like a genius? 

 

My snark is borne of my personal opinion that no one coach, or just coaches, or any one player actually cost the panthers a super bowl victory. It’s a combination of players not “doing their job” to quote a bastard, and coaches not adjusting. I agree there should have been some considerable adjustments made so that the game could hold some new tricks for the grande finale. But I also think that every dropped ball or misplaced pass factored in. Every missed block or missed tackle counted too. 

I feel like you are unfairly putting most of the responsibility on one guy who also happened to be in the same seat the led the same team to an incredible offensive power team with really what talent? 

 

My biggest gripe was that the team did not respond how I would have hoped when they got punched in the mouth. None of them. Great season, but great teams rally and overcome deficits. Panthers didn’t deserve to win a super bowl after a great season, just because they were awesome during the reg- they needed to finish it, and didn’t. Just that simple. Was a great run. Lots of fun. Big disappointment at the end but such is life.

[KillerKat]

43 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

We let Shula do what? What could “we” have done differently? Shula led us to the 15-1 you think “we” should have fired Shula and hired a new OC between championship and super bowl?

 

I don’t think I’m being justly compensated for my part in these high level discussions either. Who can I file a complaint with? 

He gave no help to Remmers who was getting abused. Every 1st down he threw away with a run up the middle. You can't just throw away multiple downs in every series in the Super Bowl and expect to win. We were predictable and the Broncos called us out on it afterwards.

[KillerKat]

17 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

Sounds to me like Remmers dropped the ball. Maybe if he had done his part Shula would have looked like a genius? 

 

My snark is borne of my personal opinion that no one coach, or just coaches, or any one player actually cost the panthers a super bowl victory. It’s a combination of players not “doing their job” to quote a bastard, and coaches not adjusting. I agree there should have been some considerable adjustments made so that the game could hold some new tricks for the grande finale. But I also think that every dropped ball or misplaced pass factored in. Every missed block or missed tackle counted too. 

I feel like you are unfairly putting most of the responsibility on one guy who also happened to be in the same seat the led the same team to an incredible offensive power team with really what talent? 

 

My biggest gripe was that the team did not respond how I would have hoped when they got punched in the mouth. None of them. Great season, but great teams rally and overcome deficits. Panthers didn’t deserve to win a super bowl after a great season, just because they were awesome during the reg- they needed to finish it, and didn’t. Just that simple. Was a great run. Lots of fun. Big disappointment at the end but such is life.

Players are the chess pieces, coaches are the chess players. Of course if your coach isn't that good, it's going to heavily affect who is on the field. Just like if you're terrible at chess, you're going to lose. Just think.

[ImfromClayton]

Super hot take here but I thought the 2013 team was better. CJ and Hardy got after it that year. 

[Asurfaholic]

12 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Players are the chess pieces, coaches are the chess players. Of course if your coach isn't that good, it's going to heavily affect who is on the field. Just like if you're terrible at chess, you're going to lose. Just think.

Terrible at chess? The whole season we played against teams that wanted to win and were perfectly capable of beating us. I thought everyone looked competent during the season and playoffs. Who became terrible between the regular season and the super bowl? 

Or did the glory of the regular season really come down to the panthers getting lucky during key moments? Did their luck run out? Call heads 50 times and get 49 heads in a row before that tails comes down to bite you? 

[Manther]

37 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

My snark is borne of my personal opinion that no one coach, or just coaches, or any one player actually cost the panthers a super bowl victory.

Yeah Shula just rocked it up there, pretending to be OC in NY.  

Cam carried Shula, and the rest of the offense on his back in 2015, throwing into some of the tightest windows that many times just happened to go our way.  That MVP was WELL deserved.

RR made the  right call letting him go.

Norv>>>>>Shula.  

[Asurfaholic]

7 minutes ago, Manther said:

Yeah Shula just rocked it up there, pretending to be OC in NY.  

Cam carried Shula, and the rest of the offense on his back in 2015, throwing into some of the tightest windows that many times just happened to go our way.  That MVP was WELL deserved.

RR made the  right call letting him go.

Norv>>>>>Shula.  

I’m not saying you are wrong; particularly I agree with your final statement. But if you give cam all the credit for the season then it’s only logical to blame cam for not overcoming the same obstacle (bad OC) on the biggest stage. 

Some people want to blame this person or that person. But the entirety of the game came down to every single person on the team. Who missed tackles or couldn’t defend passes? Who let 3rd downs convert? Would the running game have done better of the OL held up better on all sides? Did cam make the best decisions? Were they all star struck by bright lights or cocky after high honors season?