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You can’t fix stupid


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17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Stupidity is a synonym for unintelligence. Unintelligence literally means a lack of intelligence. Intelligence means the ability to acquire knowledge and/or skills. Add it all up...

Like arguing with a professor who has written 2  books on how to increase intelligence through a multi-faceted approach to developing cognitive functioning?  

Stupid--is unintelligence (your words).  Since you can improve intelligence  (not debatable), you are replacing unintelligence with intelligence.   It is called learning. By the way, intelligence and unintelligence are abstract terms that have no definable characteristics--we have IQ scores, but only a few are unteachable---even those identified as mentally disabled.  And there are multiple forms of intelligence, there is no clear position.  Low intelligence does not mean that it cannot be
"fixed" or improved.  Sorry--I struggle to simplify it because it is complex, but stupid  can be fixed.

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57 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Like arguing with a professor who has written 2  books on how to increase intelligence through a multi-faceted approach to developing cognitive functioning?  

Stupid--is unintelligence (your words).  Since you can improve intelligence  (not debatable), you are replacing unintelligence with intelligence.   It is called learning. By the way, intelligence and unintelligence are abstract terms that have no definable characteristics--we have IQ scores, but only a few are unteachable---even those identified as mentally disabled.  And there are multiple forms of intelligence, there is no clear position.  Low intelligence does not mean that it cannot be
"fixed" or improved.  Sorry--I struggle to simplify it because it is complex, but stupid  can be fixed.

Agree to disagree. If stupid can be fixed, let's see you turn a sub-100 IQ kid into a Rhodes scholar. Best of luck. Making someone less stupid isn't curing stupidity it's simply taking the edge off.

 

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4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Like arguing with a professor who has written 2  books on how to increase intelligence through a multi-faceted approach to developing cognitive functioning?  

Stupid--is unintelligence (your words).  Since you can improve intelligence  (not debatable), you are replacing unintelligence with intelligence.   It is called learning. By the way, intelligence and unintelligence are abstract terms that have no definable characteristics--we have IQ scores, but only a few are unteachable---even those identified as mentally disabled.  And there are multiple forms of intelligence, there is no clear position.  Low intelligence does not mean that it cannot be
"fixed" or improved.  Sorry--I struggle to simplify it because it is complex, but stupid  can be fixed.

Blasting your credentials on a sports message board, in a thread about a player getting ripped off by some thots, in response to a casual statement.....is kind of stupid.

Just sayin'.

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3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Blasting your credentials on a sports message board, in a thread about a player getting ripped off by some thots, in response to a casual statement.....is kind of stupid.

Just sayin'.

Him stating that he’s written two books on literally the very topic he’s debating in here is “blasting his credentials”? What?

Let’s imagine some guy makes a comment in a thread about some symptoms he’s been recently experiencing. Let’s say Person A with zero medical background googles his symptoms.

A: “You have meningitis, I googled it”.

Then Person B (an actual medical doctor) comes in and is like:

B: “No, it sounds like he could be in the early stages of Parkinson’s Disease”.

A: “No...it’s meningitis. I googled it and the symptoms are very similar”.

B: “I’m a neurologist who has been practicing medicine for 23 years. I’ve seen several cases presenting just like this”.

A: “Agree to disagree bro.”

Person C: “Flaunting your credentials much? That’s kind of stupid.”

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37 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Him stating that he’s written two books on literally the very topic he’s debating in here is “blasting his credentials”? What?

Let’s imagine some guy makes a comment in a thread about some symptoms he’s been recently experiencing. Let’s say Person A with zero medical background googles his symptoms.

A: “You have meningitis, I googled it”.

Then Person B (an actual medical doctor) comes in and is like:

B: “No, it sounds like he could be in the early stages of Parkinson’s Disease”.

A: “No...it’s meningitis. I googled it and the symptoms are very similar”.

B: “I’m a neurologist who has been practicing medicine for 23 years. I’ve seen several cases presenting just like this”.

A: “Agree to disagree bro.”

Person C: “Flaunting your credentials much? That’s kind of stupid.”

Yeah, you might want to roll through this thread and see how this tangent came about. It was pretty much your boy taking a common saying way too seriously. 

I never even said he was wrong, just implying that it's a pretty dumb way to draw a random line in the sand. It's also a real dumb way to argue a point if your actual goal is to educate people on your area of expertise. 

But, by all means, continue arguing the finer points of intelligence, education, etc in a thread about Bell getting ripped off by some randoms......

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36 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

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B: “I’m a neurologist who has been practicing medicine for 23 years. I’ve seen several cases presenting just like this”.

This is assuming the person with x amount of years doing something actually knows what he is doing. Just because you have "experience" doesn't mean you're right or know what you're doing. I've seen examples of that all my life. 

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, you might want to roll through this thread and see how this tangent came about. It was pretty much your boy taking a common saying way too seriously. 

I never even said he was wrong, just implying that it's a pretty dumb way to draw a random line in the sand. It's also a real dumb way to argue a point if your actual goal is to educate people on your area of expertise. 

But, by all means, continue arguing the finer points of intelligence, education, etc in a thread about Bell getting ripped off by some randoms......

Him saying in an extremely general sense “actually you can fix stupid (education)” and then instantly moving on to more relevant discussion is taking it way too seriously? It was a throwaway line that YOUR boy (since we’re assigning each other boys for some reason) took as an opportunity to engage and respond to and essentially say “well actually, you’re wrong” and move into some pseudo-intellectual stuff before he realized he was actually talking to someone educated on the subject matter.

If we’re assigning blame with regards to who took things too seriously and perpetuated this tangent, I’m taking your boy 100%. Since I’m all about the analogies I guess (bear with me)...let’s put it this way. My guy rolled through here with a harmless little scented candle, lit a flame, then pretty much immediately blew it out.  Your boy came however many hours later, relit the candle, then stoked the flame by dumping a gallon of gasoline on it, burning the entire building down. Do you agree with that characterization?

I agree that it’s a silly tangent that is way off base...but personally, I find the discussion of “can you fix stupid” to be much more interesting than some juvenile TMZ celebrity gossip discussion about a non-Panther. But sorry, we can go back to the riveting discussion now about how hoes ain’t loyal or whatever.

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3 hours ago, wud35 said:

This is assuming the person with x amount of years doing something actually knows what he is doing. Just because you have "experience" doesn't mean you're right or know what you're doing. I've seen examples of that all my life. 

Of course...but I think it’s misguided to hypothetically question the competency of a doctor who has been practicing for 23 years. Surely if he’s incompetent and goes around misdiagnosing people and his patients have a highly disproportionate death rate as a result, then I don’t think that doctor would be employed or even still have a license at that point.

Regardless of whether he’s a good doctor or not, he’s still infinitely more qualified in medicine than someone with an MD from  Google University. Can we agree on that at least?

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