How Much Pressure is Rivera Under?

[panthers55]

42 minutes ago, Lumps said:

There is a possibility cam comes back looking great but the same coaching deficiencies are there and that’s what causes poor performance. I wouldn’t say they’re tied to the hip by any means. If the Panthers show a poor performance this year it will be a questions of why. I think Cams ability to voice back from shoulders issues impacts his contract more so than Rivera’s abilities. If he does bounce back and the Panthers lose for other reasons I see no reason to get rid of Cam and Rivera. 

I am sure that if Cam comes back 100% we won't be losing games. Rivera and the defense will be top 5 in points allowed. If the offense is cooking, there is no reason for us to falter. Norv will be working the offense and Rivera the defense. The game manager will be controlling the clock and managing the timeouts. Anyone knows that Washington aside, our defense has been top notch. The offense held us back most times. The decision won't be to get rid of Cam, simply not pay him 30 million a year at the age of 31 unless Cam proves he can take us all the way.

[bythenbrs]

On 6/19/2019 at 6:38 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

It should be playoffs or bust for both Ron and Marty.

Respectfully disagree on Marty.  Draft and free agency may have saved Hurndog's career.  H2.0 indeed.

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

Respectfully disagree on Marty.  Draft and free agency may have saved Hurndog's career.  H2.0 indeed.

The only thing that matters is what happens on the field. Games aren't won on paper. Plenty of us were celebrating Poe's signing last year but that sure was a bust for at least last year.

Playoffs or reset button.

[bythenbrs]

46 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only thing that matters is what happens on the field. Games aren't won on paper. Plenty of us were celebrating Poe's signing last year but that sure was a bust for at least last year.

Playoffs or reset button.

Well, if we don't make the playoffs, burning it all to the ground and salting the earth is one option, I guess.  That's pretty Old School but I applaud the accountability.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

Well, if we don't make the playoffs, burning it all to the ground and salting the earth is one option, I guess.  That's pretty Old School but I applaud the accountability.

I honestly think it would be the best option at that point. Rivera is one of the longest tenured head coaches in the league and has never been able to field a consistent winner. Hurney would've gone 0-2 making the playoffs during his second go round with his first go round ending in disaster. It would be time.

I hope we win the fuging Super Bowl and out all that talk to bed.

[Fox007]

On 6/19/2019 at 9:41 PM, TheRed said:

Still no consecutive winning seasons.

The Panthers are the only team in NFL history to nearly go undefeated and not even sniff the postseason the following year. I'm sorry if coach of the year doesn't fluff that up.

The talent isn't an issue. The ability isn't the issue. It's the consistency in putting away games. We're eight years in. He shouldn't still be standing on the sideline watching his team losing games the same way by trying not to lose. If there is still a lingering question, that is absolutely it, and he must show he has learned from losing in the past.

 The injury excuse will not fly for 2019.

The injury excuse was never valid anyway. Every team has injuries and deals with them, it's clearly part of the game and has been this whole time. Draft better in the later rounds sound you don't have fugin morons standing in the secondary stationary while WRs stream past them for TDs as has happened when our injuries "cost" us.

No it was the injuries that cost us it was only having our 1st round draft picks doing anything for several years in a row  multiple times at different eras in the team. Most of the people on this board pay 0 attention to anything besides the Panthers otherwise they might find themselves educated about how other teams actually operate and how the same teams tend to do pretty well consistently. And it's not because they magically didn't have injuries.

[The Huddler]

On 6/20/2019 at 8:40 AM, rayzor said:

NFCCG at the minimum followed by a return to the playoffs the next year. Anything short of this and he's gone. No excuses.

[Shotgun]

If we keep getting owned by our division rivals, it's time to move on.

[KB_fan]

Interesting.  Listening to One Day Contract.  Colin Hogard brought up a point I don't think I've heard anyone else make.

If Ron were truly on a very hot seat, would be changing the defense to a 3-4 / hybrid?  It could be argued that Ron is doing that to try and save his job, I guess, but it seems to argue that Tepper expects Ron to be around for awhile.

[thefuzz]

On 6/22/2019 at 6:48 PM, KB_fan said:

Interesting.  Listening to One Day Contract.  Colin Hogard brought up a point I don't think I've heard anyone else make.

If Ron were truly on a very hot seat, would be changing the defense to a 3-4 / hybrid?  It could be argued that Ron is doing that to try and save his job, I guess, but it seems to argue that Tepper expects Ron to be around for awhile.

IMO, and I have nothing to back this up.....

Tepper wants to see changes.  Practice bubble, getting SC involved, adding to the analytics dept. et....he knows that the Panthers have been very slow to change in the past.  Guessing that Tepper has put his foot down on changes he wants to see....possibly going to a more diverse defense was part of that.

Ron is a stubborn coach, Tepper wants to see if he can evolve past 1994.