One Realistic Trade that would put a cherry on top

[Catufb85]

With everyone's love and gushing for the offseason moves so far, which I am one of them and truly believe this is the best offseason acquisitions we have had in forever followed by a great draft,  like most I still have some concern with the back end of our defense.  I can't be sold on Gaulden because of no real film on him playing at this level.  I do believe he has the talent and intangibles to contribute.  Everyone is barking out sign Eric Berry or Tre Boston, which at this time I am more of a Boston signing than Berry.  But I do believe we are 1 above average safety opposite of Eric Reid from being one of if not the most feared defenses. 

So my question is this: Who would you trade for to place that cherry on top of this great offseason? And what would you give?

Here's mine:

Currently as of day Over the Cap has us at $11.143 million left in cap space.  3 names that come to mind aren't big ones but have been impactful thus far in their careers that currently trust more than say Gaulden.

Safety Karl Joseph: was the 14th pick in 2016 NFL trade 1st round.  Has appeared in 32 games over 3 years in the league with 48 tackles, 2 sacks and 1 INT.  He is currently buried on the Raiders depth chart after they drafted Johnathan Adram in the 1st this year.  I really liked this kid coming out of WVU 3 years ago and I think he was potentially drafted higher than most expected.

Safety Josh Jones: was drafted 61st in round 2 by the Packers.  In 3 years he has played in 21 games registering 55 tackles and 1 sack.  He's 24 and I was high on this guy because of his athleticism he displayed a the combine. 6'1 220 ran a 4.41, 20 reps, and 37.5" vert.  Currently listed as starter on OurLads.com depth chart for Packers but Packers just drafted Safety Darnell Savage with the 1st round pick.

Safety Tavon Wilson: 8 year vet signed with Detroit in March. Has 259 career tackles, 8 INT, and 4 sacks.   Buried on depth chart.

 

I typically don't like trading especially depth but we now have so much depth at DL and OL now that most wont make the team anyways.  Potentially using Veron Butler and maybe a late pick for either of these 3 guys I think would help us seal in the back end of our defense. 

 

Options?  Answer to your questions yes I'm bored at work and missing football.

[LinvilleGorge]

Suggesting to the Panthers (can't even say Ron or Hurney as the neglect of the position predates them) that we might want to do something to address the FS position:

[mc52beast]

 Before calling our defense just one player away from being dominant we have to see how the young guys play. If Miller and Burns play up to expectations then yes, we will be good. 

Wouldnt mind dumping the Butler on someone else for a guy who will at least be in the spots he’s supposed to be in. Liking Boston.

[pantherclaw]

Give the young.man a chance to show you he belongs. 

Seriously. 

I'd say that y'all giving up on players before they even have a chance, saddens me, but it doesn't sadden me, because it's just stupid. 

Can't fix stupid. 

[backINblack28]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/18/raiders-like-how-karl-josephs-responded-this-offseason/

I think Joseph would be a realistic nice target and I'm not sure why the new Raiders staff has been so down on him, as they did like we did with Butler and did not exercise the 5th year option.  I wouldn't mind giving him a chance as he's still plenty young and has shown some promise.

Josh Jones is a STUD and I'm quite sure if the Packers drafted a safety first round it's likely to play the other safety position with Jones instead of to replace him.  They did lose Clinton-Dix.

[LinvilleGorge]

I really don't expect us to make a move before training camp. It seems pretty clear at this point that we're going to give Gaulden every opportunity to win that spot. That's fine with me. If he's shown the improvement to earn that opportunity, fine. My concern is that it might not be a sign that he's shown significant improvement, it may just be a sign of typical Panthers philosophy of ignoring that position. If Gaulden struggles mightily, then we'll probably just panic sign some over the hill veteran sometime during the preseason because that's what Ron is comfortable with. He doesn't want his safeties making mental mistakes, but he's fine watching a guy out there making the right decisions but lacking the physical abilities to act upon them.

[Catufb85]

3 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Give the young.man a chance to show you he belongs. 

Seriously. 

I'd say that y'all giving up on players before they even have a chance, saddens me, but it doesn't sadden me, because it's just stupid. 

Can't fix stupid. 

I am all with you on this to an extent.  The moves we have made this offseason puts us in a win now situation. Cams shoulder and contract, the core of our players being over the hill sort of speak, etc.  I know some will say every season is a win now season.  But like last year this still feels like we are primed and ready for a serious 1-2 year run.  If this is the case having a young player could be costly if he doesn't produce immediately. 

[07579394]

Hell.Wait them be cutted.

[bababoey]

4 minutes ago, 07579394 said:

Hell.Wait them be cutted.

Oh wee may. 

[kungfoodude]

I wouldn't expect to see much done until after training camp. And that is under the assumption that an injury happens or Gaulden is just very clearly not the guy. As much as most of us would like to make an upgrade at FS, we may as well resign ourselves to the fact that next offseason is the earliest scenario that could happen. 

[pantherclaw]

59 minutes ago, Catufb85 said:

I am all with you on this to an extent.  The moves we have made this offseason puts us in a win now situation. Cams shoulder and contract, the core of our players being over the hill sort of speak, etc.  I know some will say every season is a win now season.  But like last year this still feels like we are primed and ready for a serious 1-2 year run.  If this is the case having a young player could be costly if he doesn't produce immediately. 

He should be ready to produce, and before we can even find out, fans want to declare him a bust. 

That isn't just ignorance, that is stupidity. 

I can understanding securing a decent backup safety, but we need to roll with this kid, and let him thrive. 

[pantherclaw]

40 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I wouldn't expect to see much done until after training camp. And that is under the assumption that an injury happens or Gaulden is just very clearly not the guy. As much as most of us would like to make an upgrade at FS, we may as well resign ourselves to the fact that next offseason is the earliest scenario that could happen. 

Based on NOTHING!

[Peppers90 NC]

54 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I wouldn't expect to see much done until after training camp. And that is under the assumption that an injury happens or Gaulden is just very clearly not the guy. As much as most of us would like to make an upgrade at FS, we may as well resign ourselves to the fact that next offseason is the earliest scenario that could happen. 

Maybe Gaulden is or isn't, neither of us know for sure at this point. We drafted him in the 3rd round so they must think relatively highly of him, especially if he can cover slot receivers too. I wouldnt panic yet but the uncertainty is there. We shall see.

[jumpman910]

1 hour ago, backINblack28 said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/18/raiders-like-how-karl-josephs-responded-this-offseason/

I think Joseph would be a realistic nice target and I'm not sure why the new Raiders staff has been so down on him, as they did like we did with Butler and did not exercise the 5th year option.  I wouldn't mind giving him a chance as he's still plenty young and has shown some promise.

Josh Jones is a STUD and I'm quite sure if the Packers drafted a safety first round it's likely to play the other safety position with Jones instead of to replace him.  They did lose Clinton-Dix.

Both players have under performed and the former also has had some injuries. 

Packers signed Amos from the bears so their starting safeties are Savage and Amos. Jones is an afterthought in GB and has played like such.