Why Matt Moore Isn't Starting Already!

[Seamonk]

You did see who his 3 starts and 2 wins were against? Not the highlights, the entire games. Highlights are like stats, very deceiving. The Seahawks worst offensive game, the Cowboys who would have put us away but got picked off on the one yard line/end zone, and a Tampa team with all the skill players in sweats, on the bench, resting for a playoff game, and you believe he can lead us to wins? The coaching staff see's the kid everyday in practice, so if he's the savior, I believe Fox would have him starting. Fox doesn't want to lose his starting job.

Any time he got playing time before his starts, he came in at garbage time to throw hail marys.

The Seahawks Worst Offensive game, is that Matt Moore's fault? For someone who is calilng out people for only watching highlights and not watching the whole game, i don't think you know how windy that game was. And to outplay Matt Hassellbeck and make throws in the wind says something.

The panthers picking off Tony Romo at the one yard line is why they didn't put us away? I think you forget we knocked TO out of the game. The huge missed pass interference call(which occured AFTER the interception at the 1 yard line). He got the ball down the field. If not for our shotty run defense, we had a chance to stay in the game. Marion Barber absolutely abused our defense. So while you say the defense bailed him out for making the interception, our defense was the reason we were losing in the first place.

And guess what all threes of Matt Moore's games had in common? DeAngelo Williams. Go back and see who clinched the Seattle game. Go back and see who made the Dallas defense look silly and that VICIOUS stiffarm on Terrence Newman that even set up his touchdown to Smitty. Go back and see who put the game away against Tampa.

So if you want to take credit away from where it's due, be my guest, but you're the one who's misusing stats if you are. Unlike Jake, even when he's come in relief, he hasn't shown that he's much of a liability but at the same time brave enough to go down field and make some throws.

[CRA]

Here is the facts my friends- http://www.nfl.com/players/mattmoore/careerstats?id=MOO551757

Look at his stats in games started.....garbage time thanks to garbage QBs doesn't mean all that much. If he can give Carolina comparable prodcution as he has in starts...it would be a much needed improvement.

[carolinanimal]

yes look at those stats! after 3 years of starting..... oh wait he didnt start, he didnt even play in 2008 and play preseason in 2009

[Catdaddy]

Catdaddy, you have made three threads all along the idea that Matt Moore sucks and he shouldnt be starting.

Please stop.

I've made the one about what Fox said as soon as he said it, cause that gives everyone an idea how Fox is thinking about who will start sunday. I did the last one after what I just listened to, what I missed while I was at work today, and if I would have heard it live I would have only made the two posts. The one about Moore shouldn't start cause of his numbers being sorry, is just a fact that all you people who are calling for him to start don't even know about. Most of you are watching highlights and basing your opinions on that. But thats the reason they are called highlights, they only put the good things in there for the most part. He beat one team who had their worst game, and the other team resting starters, hardly two great wins.

[beastson]

Moore > Jake

Now thats a fact for ya ass

[Catdaddy]

I hope the kid gets to start and becomes the next Tom Brady, but his numbers, performances, and him getting those happy feet like another great Panther QB, point to everything but that.

[Urrymonster]

I've made the one about what Fox said as soon as he said it, cause that gives everyone an idea how Fox is thinking about who will start sunday. I did the last one after what I just listened to, what I missed while I was at work today, and if I would have heard it live I would have only made the two posts. The one about Moore shouldn't start cause of his numbers being sorry, is just a fact that all you people who are calling for him to start don't even know about. Most of you are watching highlights and basing your opinions on that. But thats the reason they are called highlights, they only put the good things in there for the most part. He beat one team who had their worst game, and the other team resting starters, hardly two great wins.

No. You don't get it do you.

People are not calling for Moore because they think he is 'Da Man' they are calling for Jake to sit. The logic is that Moore may be able to produce a rune which does not average 2.5 turnovers a game. If he does, then we are no worse off. If he does better than that then the team has a better chance of winning games.

That is all people are calling for.

[Catdaddy]

No. You don't get it do you.

People are not calling for Moore because they think he is 'Da Man' they are calling for Jake to sit. The logic is that Moore may be able to produce a rune which does not average 2.5 turnovers a game. If he does, then we are no worse off. If he does better than that then the team has a better chance of winning games.

That is all people are calling for.

I do get It, Jake is the best Qb on our team as bad as that maybe

[Urrymonster]

I do get It, Jake is the best Qb on our team as bad as that maybe

Of course he is, does not mean he is not playing very poorly. Problem with the kind of run he is having, is that it leaves a marked impression on your confidence and belief in your own abilites. As soon as a QB starts to question themselves, they are finished.

Do you not agree that it would be neigh on impossible for someone to play worse than he is?

Therefore why not take a chance to take him out the firing line and try and get his confidence back whilst giving the team a cahnce of getting a spark.

Again you missed the point. We do not need the best QB, we need to just get Jake out the firing line, otherwise he, Fox and his coaching staff are all gone. The D may quit on the team and the fans will certainly question their decisions to turn up to games.

[rayzor]

in '07 he was playing as a rookie on a team that he didn't go to training camp with.

this year, in his only real performance, he was the 3rd QB in a game that was out of control already.

he has shown that he can be good. that he at least is worth a shot. why in the world would you not want to explore that and give him a chance? can it seriously be any worse than what we have seen with jake? can't be any worse than losing.

again, we know what we have with jake. what makes you think you KNOW what we have with moore? based on a couple games as a rookie? based on a couple series in a game that was totally out of control by the time he got in? based on his performance in preseason with 2nd and 3rd stringers?

sorry.....nothing says that he isn't worth a shot. nothing shows that he can be worse than what we have seen wwith jake this year.

this year is all that matters. right now is all that matters. not last year's 12-4 season. not the superbowl run in 2003. not his studatcular year in 2004. none of that. the only thing that matters is right now and moving forward.

[rayzor]

I do get It, Jake is the best Qb on our team as bad as that maybe

we don't an won't know who he best QB is on this team this year unless we try out the other two options. the bar is set really low. i think there are very few backup QBs in this league who couldn't do better than what jake is doing.

[Seamonk]

I hope the kid gets to start and becomes the next Tom Brady, but his numbers, performances, and him getting those happy feet like another great Panther QB, point to everything but that.

Right now, we don't want Tom Brady. We want someone to not fug us over with his poor passing. He's not indecisive, he's just not accurate. On 2 of his picks against Buffalo, he threw to the right person down field but his horribly inaccurate throws were the reasons for the INT.

Also, Matt Moore doesn't really have numbers that can tell you ANYTHING about how he is. Jake Delhomme got happy feet against Buffalo with NO PRESSURE. Buffalo had 2 sacks and that was from him standing in the pocket forever. Literally forever. Our oline is giving him time, he's just either too scared to throw it when someone is open and get picked because he doesn't have the confidence to hit his target or he's waiting way too long for one person to get open.

The Only reason that Matt Moore will not start on sunday isn't because Jake is the better option. It's because of John Fox. There is nothing else. This is a what have you done for me lately league, and Jake has week-in-and-week-out shown us he is not able to perform at PAR. With PAR being at a level that is good enough to not make mistakes and respectable enough that they don't load the box. With that you need a person capable of throwing the deep ball and the deep ball is what Jake has trouble with.

[Catdaddy]

Crown Him! He is a proven winner! 10 games, 3 touchdowns, 6 interceptions, 79.3 yards per game, he is the answer!

[Mr. Scot]

Wonder if we could pull all the threads justifying why Foster, despite hsi struggles, was still better than Williams

It'd be a big stretch to suggest that Moore is as good a QB as Williams is a runningback. To suggest, however, that Jake is doing even worse at QB than DeShaun Foster did at RB is no stretch at all.