Give me a reason to buy Madden 20?

[BlazeCarolina]

5 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

If you didn't play the BETA over the weekend don't comment...

To the OP I've played every Madden since 99' can say for sure what they delivered in the BETA was better than the last several iterations of the game. If you are just looking to play offline wait til it's on sale, if you're a guy that wants to join a league and play vs people it's worth a day one purchase. 

The movement, and game-play are night and day vs 16, 17, 18, and 19. 

It's not even close, it's like M17, and NCAA 14 had a baby and named it Madden 20.

Are you really trying to gate keep a Madden opinion thread?  I didn't play the beta, but I can tell a player who hasn't played in 15 years plenty about how things have been. 

[MasterAwesome]

Online Franchise is insanely fun...IF you can find an active online community to join up with. I used to play every year with these guys on an online forum and we’d schedule games using GroupMe and advance every 2 days. Things would always start to unravel after a few seasons when people would lose interest, but you could still milk a lot of fun out of it until then. The draft was always one of the funnest parts of the game for me, especially the feeling when you draft a hidden gem with insane attributes and get to use him throughout the season.

It was also nice cause the guys I played with had a pretty legit structured league with rules and admins and everything so people couldn’t cheese and run the same plays over and over again.

[PantherFanInPhilly]

I'm kind of shocked to see all the negativity and bad reviews for the current Madden franchise. I haven't played a video game since the late 90's but back then Madden and NBA Live were THE games back then (both EA, of course). I would have never guessed that the gameplay had fallen off that hard. Although as some one mentioned, once games got so technical with a ton of extra buttons, it just wasn't as fun to me. 

[BlazeCarolina]

3 minutes ago, PantherFanInPhilly said:

I'm kind of shocked to see all the negativity and bad reviews for the current Madden franchise. I haven't played a video game since the late 90's but back then Madden and NBA Live were THE games back then (both EA, of course). I would have never guessed that the gameplay had fallen off that hard. Although as some one mentioned, once games got so technical with a ton of extra buttons, it just wasn't as fun to me. 

Take the hate with a grain of salt.  EA just garners a lot of hate these days.  I am not saying EA is great, but the level of hate for Madden in this thread is excessive.

I think video games come down to a very simple question.  Is it fun?  Yes, Madden 19 is fun.  I imagine Madden 20 will build upon that.

[BlazeCarolina]

5 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Online Franchise is insanely fun...IF you can find an active online community to join up with. I used to play every year with these guys on an online forum and we’d schedule games using GroupMe and advance every 2 days. Things would always start to unravel after a few seasons when people would lose interest, but you could still milk a lot of fun out of it until then. The draft was always one of the funnest parts of the game for me, especially the feeling when you draft a hidden gem with insane attributes and get to use him throughout the season.

It was also nice cause the guys I played with had a pretty legit structured league with rules and admins and everything so people couldn’t cheese and run the same plays over and over again.

I forgot online franchise was a thing.  We forgot that Madden used to be one dimensional, and now they have added so much, I actually forget about game modes.

It always seemed impossible on paper for scheduling, so I never attempted it.  From the sounds of your post, it is way more effort than I would have been able to pull off.  I play D-line anyway, and no one wants a lineman.  I play corner in franchise, maybe I could be a serviceable corner.

[Growl]

I had planned on picking it up this time around but frankly after seeing it at E3 I'm probably gonna pass. 

I don't know what it's going to take for EA to "get it. " 

The entire game needs to be rebuilt from the ground up,  stop trying to weld "realistic" animations on an engine that is inherently blocky and goofy. I want to feel like I'm playing in an NFL Stadium and not on a digital rendering of pea green AstroTurf with a mural of a stadium surrounding it. Why do fans still look so ridiculous? Speaking of,  remember the Create  A Fan feature? The game is completely  devoid of any silly but fun and heartfelt addition like that.  It's an entirely barebones product and every "feature " is a microtransaction assault.

Stop plastering the ea sports logo all over games and use your broadcast license, stop avoiding it because you don't want to admit 2k did it better than you. 

Far and away the best feature Madden had added in recent iterations is the weekly updated commentary and we all know EA is going to get tired of the work that goes into that at some point because it's not like they have anybody they have to compete against. 

[MasterAwesome]

8 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I forgot online franchise was a thing.  We forgot that Madden used to be one dimensional, and now they have added so much, I actually forget about game modes.

It always seemed impossible on paper for scheduling, so I never attempted it.  From the sounds of your post, it is way more effort than I would have been able to pull off.  I play D-line anyway, and no one wants a lineman.  I play corner in franchise, maybe I could be a serviceable corner.

Sometimes it’s a hassle to schedule, especially if your opponent doesn’t put in any effort. But for the most part, it’s just a message like “Hey we’re up this week. When can you play? I’m free weekdays from 6-8 pm” and the other guy is like “Cool, let’s do tomorrow at 7” and then y’all just set aside an hour to play. But then it gets complicated when you deal with people in different time zones and people who work 2nd/3rd shift. But worst case scenario if you can’t find a time that fits both of your schedules, you would just agree to sim your game that week.

Props to you if you can pull off manually controlling a CB...that’s by far the hardest position, if you’re in Man Coverage. I usually just user the MLB to maximize how much action I’m getting in on in each game. Plus, there’s nothing more satisfying than sniffing out a HB screen pass and picking it for six.

[BlazeCarolina]

11 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Sometimes it’s a hassle to schedule, especially if your opponent doesn’t put in any effort. But for the most part, it’s just a message like “Hey we’re up this week. When can you play? I’m free weekdays from 6-8 pm” and the other guy is like “Cool, let’s do tomorrow at 7” and then y’all just set aside an hour to play. But then it gets complicated when you deal with people in different time zones and people who work 2nd/3rd shift. But worst case scenario if you can’t find a time that fits both of your schedules, you would just agree to sim your game that week.

Props to you if you can pull off manually controlling a CB...that’s by far the hardest position, if you’re in Man Coverage. I usually just user the MLB to maximize how much action I’m getting in on in each game. Plus, there’s nothing more satisfying than sniffing out a HB screen pass and picking it for six.

 I took over as Donte Jackson, so I may have had an unfair edge on being able to make up in coverage due to my speed.  Can always let the cpu cover for the first few seconds, but with Donte I can actually cover.  I should try it as a different cornerback and see how I do.

[SetfreexX]

43 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

Are you really trying to gate keep a Madden opinion thread?  I didn't play the beta, but I can tell a player who hasn't played in 15 years plenty about how things have been. 

How the game HAS BEEN, isn't how it CURRENTLY is, now if he's considering older titles by all means comment on those, but if he's looking at M20 to those that didn't play it how could you have a relevant opinion considering it's not like the previous years...

[BlazeCarolina]

1 minute ago, SetfreexX said:

How the game HAS BEEN, isn't how it CURRENTLY is, now if he's considering older titles by all means comment on those, but if he's looking at M20 to those that didn't play it how could you have a relevant opinion considering it's not like the previous years...

I seriously doubt they have changed the formula they have had for what seems like the last 20 years.  20 will be improved upon, but it isn't going to be a different game.

If you believe otherwise, and it seems you deem yourself to be the only person in this thread with a relevant opinion, why are you not spewing this information to us?

[PantherFanInPhilly]

 

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[KillerKat]

Ever since I read about Dynamic Game Difficulty Balancing in Madden, I've decided not to buy Madden anymore until it's taken out, which I doubt it ever will. Besides I've only bought 2 in the last decade. EA also uses it to manipulate players into micro-transactions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_game_difficulty_balancing

https://boxden.com/showthread.php?t=2625181

https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLHUT/comments/659uta/dynamic_game_difficulty_balancing_the_tilt_is_real/

This explains why even in offline, why sometimes when I face a really weak team, they all of a sudden have the offense of the late 80's 49ers and the defense of the 70's Steelers and your own team suddenly becomes the 2008 Lions and you are constantly committing penalty after penalty. It's hard coded into the game.

[BlazeCarolina]

1 hour ago, KillerKat said:

Ever since I read about Dynamic Game Difficulty Balancing in Madden, I've decided not to buy Madden anymore until it's taken out, which I doubt it ever will. Besides I've only bought 2 in the last decade. EA also uses it to manipulate players into micro-transactions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_game_difficulty_balancing

https://boxden.com/showthread.php?t=2625181

https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLHUT/comments/659uta/dynamic_game_difficulty_balancing_the_tilt_is_real/

This explains why even in offline, why when I face a really weak team, they all of a sudden have the offense of the late 80's 49ers and the defense of the 70's Steelers and your own team suddenly becomes the 2008 Lions and you are constantly committing penalty after penalty. It's hard coded into the game.

I wasn't aware of the balancing.  It boggles my mind how so many people in this thread have such negative experiences.  I can't help but question the validity.  When I face a team that is a low overall compared to mine, the game just takes forever because I can score at will.  I haven't had a 70-85 overall team come out crazy.

The main thing that impacts my gameplay negatively is balancing issues when it comes to special teams.  I don't think I have ever been able to recover an onside kick in 19, but I am a field goal blocking machine.

As stated earlier, I believe franchise mode could use some improvements, but I swear I feel like some of you guys have to be making this up or it is an experience you had previously and just help onto it.  I get it.

[L-TownCat]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Some of the roster hacks are way too easy to exploit too. I never pay OL, I just draft them. Any OL with a combine score of 6.0+ will be in the high 70s as a rookie and progress very quickly. He'll be 90+ by the time his rookie contract is up. I never draft 4-3 DTs, I draft late round 4-3 run stopping DEs with good combine scores and move them to DT. They'll be high 60s/low 70s and jump into the mid-high 70s when moved to DT. I also very rarely draft 4-3 DEs to play DE. I generally draft 3-4 OLBs and move them to DE. MLBs also usually get a decent ratings jump when moved to OLB. On offense, red zone WRs make excellent receiving TEs.

Where is this in real life?  I thought EA was all about “if it’s in the game...”

That sounds like putting Bo and Marcus in the backfield at the same time.  (Old farts will get it)