Some former Bears have the knives out for our ol’ friend John Fox

[ellis]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/09/some-former-bears-werent-john-fox-fans/

 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Kris Jenkins didn't like him either

[ellis]

This feels like an advocacy piece for sports media folks. 

Fox’s job wasn’t to curry favor with fans or the media. His job was to win games. He didn’t do that. Thus, he was canned.

Belichick is the most secretive, guarded coach in sports. He doesn’t engage with local hacks or fans for that matter.

He wins games. That’s the ONLY way to make fans happy. 

The media? They’re never happy.

[Moo Daeng]

He didnt treat the old players as  special as they wanted. Real problem is he didn't win.

 

[ellis]

For being the self-proclaimed toughest sport in the world, there sure is a lot of butt-hurt out there.

[Moo Daeng]

3 minutes ago, ellis said:

This feels like an advocacy piece for sports media folks. 

Fox’s job wasn’t to curry favor with fans or the media. His job was to win games. He didn’t do that. Thus, he was canned.

Belichick is the most secretive, guarded coach in sports. He doesn’t engage with local hacks or fans for that matter.

He wins games. That’s how to make fans happy. 

The media? They’re never happy.

The media is essential. However they will stab you in the back. They want to be buddies for access and then throw you under the bus for a story. It's been amplified as media isnt as professional as it used to be 

[ellis]

The media has a job to do. I can appreciate that. I’ve been a part of press avails on every level of football. It makes the job difficult when you can’t generate good quotes. 

The emerging role of an NFL coach is that of  goodwill ambassador. It’s a necessary evil for those guys. None of them want to do much more than lock themselves in an office and prep. Fox was old-guard, caught up in the new media age. But make no mistake: winning is the ultimate deodorant. He was fired for not winning games.  

[ellis]

 

 

[pantherclaw]

He failed with the bears. 

[ellis]

2010. Getting his ass kicked at home against Sean Payton. This was peak “Presser Fox”.

 

”Whenever you get outgained 416-111...”

 

[ellis]

34 minutes ago, ellis said:

 

The question/follow-up dance he does with Sorensen starting at the :55 mark is the most Fox thing ever.

[TheMostInterestingMan]

Not the popular opinion around here but... I always kinda liked him. Similarly, it’s not popular to like Rivera but yet again... I really like him. 

[ellis]

12 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Not the popular opinion around but... I always kinda liked him. Similarly, it’s not popular to like Rivers but yet again... I really like him. 

John Fox did good work here. Took a 1-15 dumpster fire to all the way to a last-second Super Bowl loss in less than 24 months. He put the Panthers into the “final four” twice in three years. 

 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

1 minute ago, ellis said:

John Fox did good work here. Took a 1-15 dumpster fire to all the way to a last-second Super Bowl loss in less than 24 months. He put the Panthers into the “final four” twice. The franchise has been in a better place since those contributions. 

 

Completely agree. Everyone is talking about how he lost games but he actually was a pretty successful HC. And I bring up Rivera as well because it’s the same thing. 

Its funny to me how a lot of posters hold double standards in this regard. I see people on here all the time saying “be careful what you wish for. We are lucky to have Cam. You’ll know when he’s done”

I 100% agree with that. Yet they slam coaches like Fox and Rivera that have absolutely been better than 80% of the other coaches around the league during their tenures with us. We are pretty lucky to have them as well imo. And they’ll see when Ron is gone