Who is/are responsible for the "Panther Culture"??

[Iron Saint]

3 hours ago, MechaZain said:

All credit to my man Ked Woodley

 

Beat me to it. Good on you, sir.

I was going to say in response to @Bronn's reply of "prowling in the shadows and roaring and pouncing", this gentleman does it in broad daylight (well technically the shade) and DGAF.

2 hours ago, Lumps said:

Define culture, and then name a couple teams who have a bad culture and why.

Fan culture, player, coaches, media, front office? Can you lump them altogether?

Is it possible for team with a good culture have a poor performance record and a team bad culture have a winning record?

Ultimately, as a fan, is culture more important that success?

I'd say one organization where you can lump them altogether as one was the Raiders of the 1970's and 1980's. It all started with Al Davis who openly despised and was constantly at war with the League office. Trickling down to the team, he signed players that matched that same attitude on the field and were notoriously dirty. That persona then made its way to the fanbase and is still alive to this day.

53 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

The overall culture is developed initially by the owner and GM but the locker room culture come primarily by the head coach. He instills it in the players and they continue it with new guys and rookies.

I agree with this entirely.

31 minutes ago, PantherCam213 said:

They haven't had a showing since the '90s.

So the Buffalo Bills then?

[TheRed]

It changes over the years with players. We had some good teams early on, and had a wild ride for awhile with Delhomme until he had the surgery, and unfortunately we know the rest.

As of now. The emergence of key franchise players like Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly have most to do with our current locker room culture and overall relevancy across the league. Rivera has played his part as well, but a coach can't win games by himself. You still need transcendent hall of fame worthy talent, and we have two players on our roster who fit the bill.

[Manther]

3 hours ago, TheWiz said:

As great as his legacy is, Sam Mills isn't known by most of the guys who play here or who are on staff. 

The culture is defined by leadership. If this were the Patriots, it would be easy to say that its Bill and Tom. 

For us... It's Ron and Cam. 

This.  Culture can be destroyed by leadership.  RR and Cam are the type of guys you'd like to go get a beer with.

[top dawg]

Hurney is particular about drafting and acquiring players of high character---not saying he won't ever take chances with young guys who've shown remorse for past wrongs. Rivera is a molder of men by laying out high expectations, and has a doghouse for those who flout them. These two make for a great pair as fat as that's concerned. Tepper really didn't have to do anything but fit in comfortably, because the culture in the locker room was already appealing.

[panthers55]

8 minutes ago, TheRed said:

It changes over the years with players. We had some good teams early on, and had a wild ride for awhile with Delhomme until he had the surgery, and unfortunately we know the rest.

As of now. The emergence of key franchise players like Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly have most to do with our current locker room culture and overall relevancy across the league. Rivera has played his part as well, but a coach can't win games by himself. You still need transcendent hall of fame worthy talent, and we have two players on our roster who fit the bill.

You are right about the talent. It isn't an "either or" proposition. You don't always have to have the most athletic guys but you have to have guys who want to win and will do whatever they can to.mske that happen. Luke and Cam both hate losing and impose their will on their teammates.

Coaches don't have to be most knowledgeable as long as they are good teachers and strong motivators.  And treat every one special while treating them all equally.

It is the gestalt of the whole being greater than the sum of it's parts. 

[Dunn]

I think Ryan Kalil had a huge part in it, you could tell how much the Oline bonded before, hell look at how they sent off Jordan Gross, all the guys singing a barber quartet to him at his press conference.  I think he was able to have a bunch of guys drop their guard and accept eachother and friends...He was here before Cam, and I feel he was able to let Cam know its cool to be yourself with teammates 

[Khyber53]

A team's culture is set early and handed down, for good or bad, from season to season. There are always some vets who carry the torch and pass it on.

Richardson wanted a family-type team and had been a player himself, something that couldn't be seen anywhere else in the league. Early on we had the advantage of bringing in some vets right off the bat and grabbing some over the early years that brought  a lot to the table, both experience with other teams and hard-won leadership skills.

Yes, Sam Mills left a big imprint on this team culture, as a player, a coach and even a father for one of our current coaches. That's a big foot print for an undersized player. He also had folks like Steve Beurlein, Kevin Greene and Reggie White who helped establish what it meant to be a Panther. These guys were selected not just for their play but what they brought to the locker room. And we have always tried to draft with an eye toward character, at least since the first Hurney tenure.

Mike Minter and Jon Kasay carried the torch here as well, along with Jordan Gross, Jake Delhomme, Stephen Davis, Wesley Walls and Muhsin Muhammad. Steve Smith and Julius Peppers set the tone for what phenomenal play could happen in Panthers blue and black.

Today, we have that family feel to this very day, even after some really acrimonious break-ups during the Gettleman days. Yes, we have made ammends with Steve Smith, but there were others who were shown the door poorly and still deserve some apologies. DeAngelo Williams deserved better than he got, even before he was cut, especially when it came to the loss of his mother and how the team leadership dropped the ball on taking care of one of their own. The guy was a seriously good player here, had been nothing but a model teammate and had even pretty much created and spearheaded the NFL's breast cancer awareness month. 

And that happens in families. We have had some terrible fits brought in -- Kerry Collins, Keyshawn Johnson, Rae Carruth, but we haven't had a litany of trouble makers and me-firsters like some franchises. Some teams seem to be built on that recipe, doomed to forever repeat the pursuit of starpower only to fall flat again and again.

And here we are, a family team to this day, different ownership, steadfast coach, a general manager on his second and shining tour of duty, led by folks like Cam, Luke and Greg, surrounded by a slew of young, high character, high heart young players. We're good, we're Good, and we're going to be great. Great.

 

[Future of the Funchise]

4 hours ago, Tbe said:

Cam, Luke, TD, Greg, etc are big factors. Also, Ron gets a ton of credit as well. Only bringing in good locker room guys, etc contributes a lot.

TD is a Charger now :(

[ncstatekwi]

56 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Hurney is particular about drafting and acquiring players of high character---not saying he won't ever take chances with young guys who've shown remorse for past wrongs. Rivera is a molder of men by laying out high expectations, and has a doghouse for those who flout them. These two make for a great pair as fat as that's concerned. Tepper really didn't have to do anything but fit in comfortably, because the culture in the locker room was already appealing.

Great response!  Remember when Cam sat briefly because he violated RR's dress code!  No one is above the law!!  :o)

[ncstatekwi]

7 minutes ago, Future of the Funchise said:

TD is a Charger now :(

At least he's with a NC State guy in Phillip Rivers!

[Bronn]

15 hours ago, MechaZain said:

All credit to my man Ked Woodley

 

I remixed that one time, lol...
 

 

[DeAngelo Beason]

Not many people will like reading this, but it's Jerry Richardson.  He was a fat old dirtbag in the end, but you can't deny he's the one who created the "family" culture the team has always seem to have.

[Actionman0z]

Carolina is one of the only places a team plays every game on the road.. not much of a fan culture. Its the banking capital of the United States, 90% of the people in Charlotte are transplants. 

[Malt Liquor]

The only Macaroni to the Panthers.... David Tepper