Gaulden trying to turn corner from rough transition

[Toomers]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Cute response, but it's not really based upon any quantifiable body of work.

Neither is expecting him to suddenly develop in to a starting caliber FS. Or NCB? Or whichever he’s playing this week? 

  Unless a year behind Colin Jones on the depth chart is a “body of work? 

  

[raz]

dude, colin jones is a natural teacher. everybody knows that.    and really pulling for gaulden

[firefox1234]

If he's average this season I wouldnt complain....

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, firefox1234 said:

If he's average this season I wouldnt complain....

"Average" seems to always be our best case scenario at FS and we usually come up well short of that. 

[panthers55]

55 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I will literally agreeing with you and you still want to try to argue. Jesus Christ, man. You are one miserable SOB.

Actually I didn't argue just pointed out where I disagree with your DB comments saying if you don't draft them high what do you expect. I did agree with your analysis about the WRs.

And if I am a miserable SOB then you are a foul-mouthed ignorant A hole.  

[LinvilleGorge]

13 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Actually I didn't argue just pointed out where I disagree with your DB comments saying if you don't draft them high what do you expect. I did agree with your analysis about the WRs.

And if I am a miserable SOB then you are a foul-mouthed ignorant A hole.  

I am a foul-mouthed asshole, no disagreement on that one. At least I have the self awareness to realize that. Meanwhile, you storm around this place like

So go fug yourself you old self righteous prick.

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I am a foul-mouthed asshole, no disagreement on that one. At least I have the self awareness to realize that. Meanwhile, you storm around this place like

So go fug yourself you old self righteous prick.

I hope you feel better. Now that you threw your temper tantrum you can back to playing video games. Don't stay up late you know you still have school tomorrow. 

[Rubi]

He lacks the physical tools. Guy graded in the bottom 2% when he was drafted

and yes at the pro level those things do matter. Players are bigger. Stronger. Faster in the league. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Rubi said:

He lacks the physical tools. Guy graded in the bottom 2% when he was drafted

and yes at the pro level those things do matter. Players are bigger. Stronger. Faster in the league. 

This is my concern. I'm not a big workout numbers geek, but he tested out really poorly. To me, the workout numbers only really matter when they're outliers or significantly different than expected based on watching a guy play. His numbers were definitely an outlier and in the worst of ways.

[firefox1234]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

"Average" seems to always be our best case scenario at FS and we usually come up well short of that. 

Tbh we should be lucky to get just "average" with the way we under value that position. Not saying we got to sign big money free agents but it would be great if we valued Safeties in particular higher during the draft more.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, firefox1234 said:

Tbh we should be lucky to get just "average" with the way we under value that position. Not saying we got to sign big money free agents but it would be great if we valued Safeties in particular higher during the draft more.

I agree. Even when we do spend a decent draft pick on a "safety" it seems like it's always on a slow CB that we're going to try to convert. I don't think we've taken a true safety in the first three rounds of the draft since taking Deon Grant in the 2nd way back in 2000.

[panthers55]

The game isn't played running around cones, lifting weights, or doing 40 yard dashes. It is played between the hashes in one on one matchups that vary from week to week. Obviously speed and strength matter. But the muscle most important to a free safety is between his ears. Because you see the play unfold in front of you you can anticipate what they are doing and how to respond. So he ran a 4.6 40. If it were 4.4 everyone would be ecstatic. A blink of an eye, a step.  If it was 4.49 we would be talking the next Derwin James or a 4.47 he would be the next Earl Thomas. He isn't. Otherwise his game is physical, aggressive and with attitude. He wasn't paying attention to Colin Jones he was watching Eric Reid and was impressed how he came off the couch and played at such a high level. I hope he does well. If he can be serviceable having him and Reid at safety will be the reincarnation of the bruise brothers. If he struggles we will bring someone in along the way like we did with Reid.

[firefox1234]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I agree. Even when we do spend a decent draft pick on a "safety" it seems like it's always on a slow CB that we're going to try to convert. I don't think we've taken a true safety in the first three rounds of the draft since taking Deon Grant in the 2nd way back in 2000.

Lol! I loved Deon Grant(on madden)but i look at a what the Falcons got when they drafted Keanu Neal. Tbh i thought they reached hard but he has turned out to be a decent to above average safety and i wonder why our guys can find something like that. Heck anyone other than Butler who we took in that draft would be better lol. Just checked and saw we also missed on Kevin Byard by two picks when we took Bradberry.

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, firefox1234 said:

Lol! I loved Deon Grant(on madden)but i look at a what the Falcons got when they drafted Keanu Neal. Tbh i thought they reached hard but he has turned out to be a decent to above average safety and i wonder why our guys can find something like that. Heck anyone other than Butler who we took in that draft would be better lol. Just checked and saw we also missed on Kevin Byard by two picks when we took Bradberry.

I like Bradberry just fine, so I'm not complaining about that pick.