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I certainly haven't anointed Kyle Allen as the QB2


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18 hours ago, GoPanthers123 said:

Allen had also a 4-of-4 drive against Atlanta. I am saying Cam is by far our best QB but if someone points a gun to my head and asks who is number 2 based on small info we have I would say Allen.

This.  Allen performed better then Heinicke in both games, including the one drive they let him play against Atlanta.  They should have let Allen finish rather than play an injured Heinicke .  It wasn't fair to either player or the team.

My guess is Allen just wasn't/isn't performing in practice so he's third or lower.  Too bad, because come game time, he came to play.

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17 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Both Heinicke and Allen got injured in their only playing time. I am not anointing anyone until I see them take a licking and keep on ticking. Seems they either had a fluke accident or they aren't very resistant to injury.

Do you remember how horrible our line was? You could’ve put anyone back there and they would’ve got killed. 

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18 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Heinicke, Allen and Grier all have one thing in common.....they will all probably lose us a lot of games if Cam isn't healthy this year. 

on the flip side of that, Cam lost us a lot of games when he wasn't healthy but still played. The only game we won when Cam wasn't healthy? The one game the backups played...

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30 minutes ago, Pantha-kun said:

on the flip side of that, Cam lost us a lot of games when he wasn't healthy but still played. The only game we won when Cam wasn't healthy? The one game the backups played...

Hence the "healthy Cam" caveat. I think we were all pretty beside ourselves when the season started going to poo, Cam was CLEARLY not able to throw downfield and they continued to trot him out there.

One of the most infuriating decisions I have ever seen as a Panthers fan.

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55 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Hence the "healthy Cam" caveat. I think we were all pretty beside ourselves when the season started going to poo, Cam was CLEARLY not able to throw downfield and they continued to trot him out there.

One of the most infuriating decisions I have ever seen as a Panthers fan.

I don't even want to see him game 1 vs the Rams unless he's completely 100% , but somehow I know he'll be playing regardless of how healthy he is. 

Id rather start the season with Allen or Grier or something and insert Cam once hes fully healthy halfway through the season, rather than do it the opposite way around and have Cam just deteriorate down the stretch again if some defender hits his arm again.

Especially with how our schedule is laid out. I'd rather struggle early than late when we have to play better teams and a slew of divisional games.

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5 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

Oh nooo, it’s the bitter “We should’ve tanked!!” crowd, resurfacing...one month after the draft. They’ll be sitting around the fireplace with their grandkids 40 years from now, shaking their fist at the sky about that time the genius Sean Payton strategically outwitted stupid Ron Rivera by telling his backups to deliberately throw the game against our backups. CHESS VS. CHECKERS!

Resurfacing? That’s the topic; how Allen did and the joke is people who thought that that game had any legitimacy for a conclusion. 

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On 5/28/2019 at 5:13 PM, top dawg said:

I have seen some people here speak with a certain amount of surety that Kyle Allen should be Cam's backup. Me? I'm not buying it until I see it. And, sorry, a game against an unmotivated Saints defense in the last game of the season doesn't do it for me. I thought that Heinike looked similarly suspect  (but maybe a bit better due to his mobility when he had time to throw versus Atlanta). And then there is the somewhat Huddle-maligned  rookie who will probably only need to get up to speed to legitimately compete with the other two. So Allen gets no pass in my mind, and I just simply raise an eye when hearing people claim that he should be our QB2 based upon so little---almost nothing.

FWIW, it's still May, but I'd like to point out what was said in the Riot Report today in reference to Allen and the QB battle (which really should be of more attention and importance in the minds of fans in my estimation).

"Team drills began with an interception from Luke Kuechly – the first of two for the All-Pro linebacker off of Kyle Allen – and featured a fumble recovery from Andre Smith that would have gone for a touchdown had this been a real game. Smith thinks that the new look of the Panthers defense will be extremely helpful for Kuechly – Rivera said after practice he’s seen a lot of inside linebackers be extremely successful with a three-man front in front of them. It isn’t necessarily a surprise to see the defense holding strong against the Panthers’ three backup quarterbacks, but Taylor Heinicke continues to look – at least to me – the most polished of the three; it will be interesting to see where they are once training camp begins in August."

https://theriotreport.com/dispatches-from-panthers-otas-week-2/

As far as I'm concerned, no one should be exclaiming Allen as the best choice to back up Cam so early in this process. He's going to have to win that honor, and it's basically a guess as to whether he can/will do it.

 

Do intelligent Panthers fans actually think Allen is going to be handed the backup qb job even though it took Heineke getting injured for him to see the field and we just invested a 3rd round pick on a QB that the organization seems weirdly obsessed about it? I think his performance against the Saints is a plus but I can't imagine even Allen's biggest supporters are thinking there isn't going to be competition for the backup job. If you do, identify yourselves so we can make sure this post informed at least one huddler

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10 hours ago, Pantha-kun said:

I don't even want to see him game 1 vs the Rams unless he's completely 100% , but somehow I know he'll be playing regardless of how healthy he is. 

Id rather start the season with Allen or Grier or something and insert Cam once hes fully healthy halfway through the season, rather than do it the opposite way around and have Cam just deteriorate down the stretch again if some defender hits his arm again.

Especially with how our schedule is laid out. I'd rather struggle early than late when we have to play better teams and a slew of divisional games.

I think he will be okay for the start of season. However, if he is not healthy enough to play, I completely agree. 

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