I Have to get this off my chest.

[Dpantherman]

What is the one position on the field that as a front office and coaching staff should be the best and most important position on the field? QB. Thats supposed to be and has always been the #1 priority. Look at the top teams in the NFL most of the SB winners. Most of them drafted/traded for a franchise QB. And they have someone ready to go if something happens. This coaching staff pissed around for 8 years and brought in only 1 QB that is even capable of starting in this league. We shouldn't even be in this situation, and it pisses me off. Matt Moore is a question mark. But he shouldnt be. we should have someone that this team is confident in, and is ready to go now. This is one of the many reasons that Fox and Hurney are, and should be on their way out.

[grateflday]

What is the one position on the field that as a front office and coaching staff should be the best and most important position on the field? QB. Thats supposed to be and has always been the #1 priority. Look at the top teams in the NFL most of the SB winners. Most of them drafted/traded for a franchise QB. And they have someone ready to go if something happens. This coaching staff pissed around for 8 years and brought in only 1 QB that is even capable of starting in this league. We shouldn't even be in this situation, and it pisses me off. Matt Moore is a question mark. But he shouldnt be. we should have someone that this team is confident in, and is ready to go now. This is one of the many reasons that Fox and Hurney are, and should be on their way out.

Agree in many ways. This is the same conversation we were all having the year Jake got hurt, Carr sucked ass and the season was lost. One of the biggest failures of Fox/Hurney era is to have a QB of the future on this roster - whether they accomplished that through the draft/trade/ or free agents signing. They have tried but failed miserably and now we have another lost season due to it. What also pisses me off is they were so down on Moore they put McCown on IR to bring in Feely. Not that McCown is the answer but they traded picks to bring him in this past offseason. Now he is healthy but cant play.

[Jeff L]

I agree with you 100% and have stated so in a different thread.

Carolina needs to do whatever it takes to trade up into the first round and draft that franchise QB. That QB will be the new face of the team and someone who we can rebuild around.

[Carl Spackler]

I agree with you 100% and have stated so in a different thread.

Carolina needs to do whatever it takes to trade up into the first round and draft that franchise QB. That QB will be the new face of the team and someone who we can rebuild around.

Tony Pike in the second round will be our guy. And I love your sig...EBHS Class of '06.

[ChucktownK]

Agreed TOTALLY! I'm sick of this "game management" bullsh!t! Even when we do "manage" the game, we still get beat!!! I want a high scoring offense. I want touchdowns not lame "time of possession" stats.

[ckad79]

Agreed TOTALLY! I'm sick of this "game management" bullsh!t! Even when we do "manage" the game, we still get beat!!! I want a high scoring offense. I want touchdowns not lame "time of possession" stats.

I'll take an ugly win over a pretty loss any day of the week.

Whatever we do to win. Who cares. JUST WIN!

[carolinarolls]

This is an argument people have been making since '06 but were subsequently steamrolled with:

"Jake took us to the Super Bowl"

"Jake has the best post season stats"

"Jake is a perfect leader and has a strong arm"

"its the run game fault"

"It's the o-line fault"

"It's the defense's fault"

"It's the coordinator's fault"

"Its the coach's fault"

I just wonder what has put an end to all the excuse making.

[PuntJake]

This is an argument people have been making since '06 but were subsequently steamrolled with:

"Jake took us to the Super Bowl"

"Jake has the best post season stats"

"Jake is a perfect leader and has a strong arm"

"its the run game fault"

"It's the o-line fault"

"It's the defense's fault"

"It's the coordinator's fault"

"Its the coach's fault"

I just wonder what has put an end to all the excuse making.

you forgot "decimated by injuries"

[carolinarolls]

you forgot "decimated by injuries"

I'm sure I left out a bunch. Anyone who has posted or lurked around here for awhile could certainly come up with a more detailed list. Some of my favorites were the isolated stats that included wacky parameters defined by score, quarter, defined down and distance, and my favorite... "when Steve Smith was out..."

[Pimpdaddy]

What is the one position on the field that as a front office and coaching staff should be the best and most important position on the field? QB. Thats supposed to be and has always been the #1 priority. Look at the top teams in the NFL most of the SB winners. Most of them drafted/traded for a franchise QB. And they have someone ready to go if something happens. This coaching staff pissed around for 8 years and brought in only 1 QB that is even capable of starting in this league. We shouldn't even be in this situation, and it pisses me off. Matt Moore is a question mark. But he shouldnt be. we should have someone that this team is confident in, and is ready to go now. This is one of the many reasons that Fox and Hurney are, and should be on their way out.

I agree that the man to take over for Jake should have already been on the team....like after the 2005 season. they tried with carr but that was a disaster...nother thing, i believe both those cock fks (fox and hurney) new Jakes arm was jacked up before it popped. they have been gambling for a long time and now they are losing which is costing us. I still think we have a good core of players but need improvement at mostly qb. Fox needs to roll out. I mean, plenty of other bungled deals have passed thru the panthers organization but what the hell was your thought process to say im going to give Jake that kind of money off that kind of performance...

We need a new attitude around here. 'it is what it is' needs to change to 'damn, we beat their ass again'...

[Jackofalltrades]

How many teams actually have their QB of the future in their roster already?

Like everything else it's a crap shoot, look at the Cards, Raiders, and Titans- they all thought they had their QB's.

[Jackofalltrades]

How many teams actually have their QB of the future in their roster already?

Like everything else it's a crap shoot, look at the Cards, Raiders, and Titans- they all thought they had their QB's.

[Steel Panther]

I say we give up our first rounders for the rest of the franchise's history, so we can trade for qb from Indy...I hear he's pretty good!:beatdeadhorse5:

[Fiz]

draft a quarterback

draft all the quarterbacks

all of them