How anyone found video on Damien Jeanpierre ?

[musicman]

I like the way he cuts once he catches the ball. Seems to be looking to break one instead of just catching it. That kind of vision is good for PR or KR too. 

[MasterAwesome]

On 5/10/2019 at 6:16 PM, stbugs said:

Let’s be serious. Who cares about a pro-day time? Real times say that unless he’s one of the 4 fastest guys in the NFL in past 20 years saying he ran a 4.25 is just plain BS.

Funchess “ran” a 4.47 at his pro day and a 4.7 at the combine. Which one looked accurate over the past 4 years? More than likely this guy runs in the 4.4s and nowhere close to 4.25.

It’s amazing the lengths that people go to not criticize players brought in by the current regime. If he just gets to Byrd’s stats, that would be exceeding expectations. 

 

22 hours ago, stbugs said:

Personal? Relax Francis and don’t take anything in here personal. That said, you believe a 4.25 is even remotely a real number when 3 players (two first rounders) have ever run as fast or faster in the past 21+ combines? This guy's an UDFA and I just showed you Funchess’ pro day which we all know is a crock and that was st Michigan. Pro day numbers are generally considered bad timings and are most often skewed faster than they really are and that’s why if a guy runs at the combine no one cares about the pro day numbers they “improve” 95% of the time. I have no doubt that someone timed Funchess at 4.47 but it’s wrong and isn’t his real time.

Oops sorry I believed another poster. My post above was my thought on what his real time actually is and that poster posted a time in that range. Confirmation bias? Dear lord be careful getting down, you might fall.

Feel free to prove me wrong, but this guy is not a 4.25 guy, period. 

Ok sorry, I'm back.  

Jesus dude...you actually doubled down? Stop giving me so much material to respond to lol, this post is gonna be even longer now (I know I know, I don't have to respond..yadda yadda, I'm just being facetious).  Let's start with what I mean by "personal".  Your personal response to me...as in your response directed towards me...as in you quoting me and responding.  Stop blowing everything I say out of proportion lol.  I meant personal in an inherently neutral way; you are the one who attached negative connotation to it.

Speaking of blowing out of proportion...my original comment was simply correcting you that this guy did not run a 4.25.  I stated that he DID, it was just at his Pro Day and not the Combine...and then proceeded in the very next sentence to say that Pro Day numbers are skewed and always test faster.  Then you proceed to waste so much time and bandwidth arguing a Straw-man: that Pro Day 40s are not comparable to Combine 40s...AGAIN, something that I already stated in my original post responding to you.  I know I talk in paragraphs often in my posts, but my original post was three sentences...I have no idea how you failed to read that.

"It's amazing the lengths that people go to not criticize players brought in by the current regime"?  Seriously?  That's where your mind went?  How do you turn this into a Hurney thing?  That's very telling about where your head is at.  First off, what rational person criticizes the regime over an undrafted free agent?  "Wow I can't believe Hurney wasted an undrafted draft pick on that receiver"...like, what?  Lol.  If I'm not mistaken, you're the guy who actually did legitimately criticize Hurney for not signing more UFAs because you thought he just didn't care or something...I can't remember your argument.  No one even thinks this guy is going to make the team, but I said a 4.25 40 for his Pro Day is still quite impressive...I would not call a 4.25 40 Combine "quite impressive", I would call that quite damn elite.  You even mentioned Byrd's 40 Pro Day time...were you not here back when we signed him and people were drooling all over his 4.28 40 Pro Day on grass?  So what does mentioning this guy's 40 Pro Day have to do with defending the current regime?  People love speed...no matter who signs it. Yes a 4.25 40 Pro Day is still impressive...how many people crank those out at their Pro Days?  If his actual time is in the high 4.3s or low 4.4s, I would consider that impressive speed given that he's 6'1.

Also, "Who cares about Pro Days"?  Ummm...the hundreds of NFL hopefuls who don't get Combine invites sure as hell care about Pro Days.  I'm sure NFL teams care a lot about Pro Days too or else they wouldn't be sending GMs and scouts all over to attend them.  I'm sure the players who were nervous at the Combine and who slipped up and didn't perform well for their TWO attempts at the 40 yard dash, also care about their Pro Days to try and salvage their athletic image.

And yes, what you just explained is the actual literal definition of confirmation bias...I'm not sure where you're going with that.  If I believed that vaccinations caused autism and I ignored and dismissed a scientific article disproving it and instead, read some blogger opinion post that said it's true because her vaccinated nephew got autism...and then ran with that blog post instead...then I just illustrated confirmation bias.

 

[MasterAwesome]

9 hours ago, stbugs said:

Byrd clocked a 4.28. Funchess clocked a 4.47. Pro day numbers are very inaccurate and that was my point because it wasn’t qualified in the OP. 4.25 is legendary speed, Usain Bolt speed.

I’m not criticizing the player. I gave my thoughts that he was likely in the 4.4s which is still NFL fast. I was criticizing a poster trying to support the 4.25 because it’s the only number. That’s dumb. See the post above.

 Is he a friend? Did I strike a nerve? Belittling a guy = saying he’s probably running 4.4s? Feel like a big man because I pointed out that only 3 guys in 21+ years have officially run faster than 4.25? Lol.

Close...he’s my brother. If your poor reading comprehension wasn’t already well-documented, there’s a little Easter egg in our names..pretty adorable, I know.

[Moo Daeng]

10 hours ago, stbugs said:

Byrd clocked a 4.28. Funchess clocked a 4.47. Pro day numbers are very inaccurate and that was my point because it wasn’t qualified in the OP. 4.25 is legendary speed, Usain Bolt speed.

I’m not criticizing the player. I gave my thoughts that he was likely in the 4.4s which is still NFL fast. I was criticizing a poster trying to support the 4.25 because it’s the only number. That’s dumb. See the post above.

 Is he a friend? Did I strike a nerve? Belittling a guy = saying he’s probably running 4.4s? Feel like a big man because I pointed out that only 3 guys in 21+ years have officially run faster than 4.25? Lol.

Everyone knows he didnt run a 4.25 at the combine. How much credit do you want for pointing out the obvious ?

[MasterAwesome]

22 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Everyone knows he didnt run a 4.25 at the combine. How much credit do you want for pointing out the obvious ?

He needed the 4.25 qualified in the OP as from the Pro Day and not the Combine...as though others share his lack of critical thinking to be able to make that determination themselves.

[kungfoodude]

[GRWatcher]

The music sux but here's from 2015. http://www.hudl.com/profile/1832462/Damion-Jeanpiere

[CPcavedweller]

On 5/10/2019 at 6:16 PM, stbugs said:

Let’s be serious. Who cares about a pro-day time? Real times say that unless he’s one of the 4 fastest guys in the NFL in past 20 years saying he ran a 4.25 is just plain BS.

Funchess “ran” a 4.47 at his pro day and a 4.7 at the combine. Which one looked accurate over the past 4 years? More than likely this guy runs in the 4.4s and nowhere close to 4.25.

It’s amazing the lengths that people go to not criticize players brought in by the current regime. If he just gets to Byrd’s stats, that would be exceeding expectations. 

Watch his clip. Seems to likely be around the 4.3's based on the number of times he beat his guy. Even FCS corner's will run 4.4 to 4.5's. The talent difference between top FCS skill players and players for FBS 26 through 130 isn't that wide. This guy looks to have potential as a number 4 receiver with growth to a 3 and situational field stretcher.

 

[caatfan]

Where was this guy last year? He was a senior in '17. Did he not even make a practice squad?

[MasterAwesome]

On 5/12/2019 at 8:38 AM, stbugs said:

Lol. You defenders of the FO and players’ feelings are so cute. You were the one responding to my simple reply with your defensive post trying to explain a pro day to me as if I didn’t know about it. Amazing how hypocritical you can be and not even realize it especially when two posts later someone read your post as if he ran a legit 4.25.

Do you search out my posts now? Seems like you like to try and prove me wrong even though I said what you said first just from non-defensive angle.

Damn...so predictable. Every debate I try to have with the “woke” skeptic community always unravels and devolves into “You’re just a blind Hurney/Panthers nuthugger!!” when you lose your footing. What’s ironic is that you were the first one to bring him up in this thread.

You’re all about your “feelings”...I thought you were one of the more level-headed posters in here but damn you showed your true colors. If you think my first post was “defensive”...then you may just be the most sensitive person I’ve ever encountered on here. You responded smugly to the OP like “Lol you actually think this guy ran a 4.25 when he wasn’t even invited to the Combine? You think he’s one of the top 3 fastest players in NFL history??”...umm no dude...literally no one thinks that. Great contribution.

The two options in play are that you either didn’t know what a Pro Day is, or that your brain couldn’t execute the critical thinking required to deduce that the OP was referencing a Pro Day 40-yard dash. Otherwise, let me submit an iteration of what your very first response would have been:

”Pro Day times are skewed, so that 4.25 probably isn’t very accurate compared to what receivers ran in the Combine”.

Instead, you started by going off on this weird rant about how he didn’t run a 4.25 in the Combine. Only after I told you that it was a Pro Day time, did you pivot into a Straw-man on whether Pro Day 40 times are accurate or not...except no one stated otherwise (I even already explicitly mentioned that in my 3-sentence post that you responded to)...so really it was just a monologue of you ranting about the validity of Combines vs. Pro Days.

Did you learn about Pro Days from the same website you learned about the imaginary FCS Combine? Again, that’s your problem...you argue from your “feelings” rather than putting in any research whatsoever about the arguments you engage in. You’re clearly one of those close-minded people I referenced in my last “debate” with the skeptic community.

I really don’t know how much clearer I could be in my original post that he ran a 4.25 in the Pro Day and not the Combine. It’s not a “point for you” just because someone else didn’t understand what I was saying. That just means someone else shares your level of reading comprehension. But to answer his question, yes Jeanpierre ran a legit 4.25...at his Pro Day.

Your last post is so ironic lol, do I seek out your posts? That’s quite a defensive stance there, buddy. I seek out ill-informed posts...so if you think I’m targeting you, then think about what that implies. Kind of like how the lengths of my posts are also directly proportional to the amount of ignorance and simple-mindedness in what I’m responding to. All of your arguments stem from baseless assumptions, which I’ve called you out on in the past.

-“Hurney didn’t sign a bunch of the top rated Undrafted Free Agents according to NFL.com. Therefore he doesn’t care about Undrafted Free Agents”.

-”Hurney didn’t draft this DE that I wanted, therefore I bet we just didn’t scout him...even though he dominated the Senior Bowl and filled our top need”.

Like, damn...how can I argue with that logic? I’m out of my league here. I guess 31 teams failed to scout him...damn, he must have been the most under-the-radar draft pick in history. So you don’t know how Pro Days work and you don’t know how scouting works (i.e. regional scouts and draft boards)...so once again, your “analyses” are based on what...your feelings? And...online draft rankings? Nice.

[MasterAwesome]

46 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Hah. No fuging way I am reading that. Damn, some people take this stuff way to seriously. In my quick glance while chuckling at the time you must have spent crafting that over the past 28 hours, I saw your legit 4.25 comment. Do you understand what legitimate means?

I’ll frame it two ways. Do you first believe that he runs a real 4.25 and is the 4th fastest NFL player in the past twenty something years? Second, Devin Funchess ran a 4.47 at his pro day so do you feel he has legit 4.47 speed?

I’ll check in around 4pm tomorrow to see what you came up with this time.

LOL sorry I spent Mother’s Day visiting my mom and spending time with her instead of arguing with you on here...damn, my bad bro. But hey, whatever makes you feel like you stood your ground and really stuck it to me...what an absolute savage. A Gold Medal in Jr. Mental Gymnastics for you.

Do you understand the difference between saying someone “has legit 4.25 speed” vs. saying someone “ran a legit 4.25 at his Pro Day”? If not, then I can’t help you. You must think it was Hurney himself who clocked him on his stopwatch, and gave him an extra 0.2 second boost...since you’re so big on Hurney conspiracy theories. And since you’re also so gung-ho about this Devin Funchess comparison that you’ve spouted out like 7 times in this thread: do I think Funchess has legit 4.47 speed? Possibly...I think he’s certainly closer to a 4.47 player than a 4.7 player. I can point to facts like how he clocked in with the 3rd fastest single play of our entire 2017 season at 20.48 mph, behind only Curtis Samuel and Kaelin Clay. But I’m sure you’ll counter me with how you “feel” like he’s slower than that.

Just FYI in the future when you flounder during another debate: any time you say “Lol I don’t have time to read through all of that” but then list off a couple random points in the middle of the huge wall of text, it reads as “Here are the only point(s) that I think I have an answer for”. I’m just surprised by how poorly you answered those hand-picked points. But it’s okay, I wouldn’t want to read my posts if I were you too, unless you’re a masochist. 

I think it’s hilarious that the only valid point you made in this entire thread was the one you parroted from me about the validity of Combine vs. Pro Day times.