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Hurney says some teams had a first round grade in Will Grier.

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Hurney has a tradition of promoting his picks after making them--sometimes 4 years after.  I remember one interview where he was talking about his picks, referencing Johnson, and Kalil as former "non-first round" picks that became some of the "highest paid players at their positions." 

He paid them.

I also remember that he once referred to Godfrey's salary as a benchmark for effectiveness. 

It is a bit disheartening when he feels the need to sell his picks to us.  I do not care where the player was on another team's board (or how he knows), but I care how they work out on the field.  Who cares if you get the best deal on a car if that car breaks down when you drive it off the lot?

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The hype around this kid is ridiculous.

Jimmy Clausen likely also had quite a few “first round grades” on him as well.

Hurney sitting around pounding his chest like he struck gold using a third rounder on a position that we all should hope never sees the field.

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Hypothetically, it's possible the teams that also had him as a 1st round graded QB also drafted a QB in the first. So I can't use the fact that he wasn't taken in the 2nd or 3rd disqualify Hurney's statement.

I don't really care where he was graded, or where other teams had him on the board. I think it was a smart pick where we got him. Grier is a QB who could be a starter, but we have the luxury of not depending on him to be a starter right now. He's got mechanical issues, but he's years away from being the QB for the Panthers, and a good QB coach can correct his throwing mechanics.

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Just now, Captroop said:

Hypothetically, it's possible the teams that also had him as a 1st round graded QB also drafted a QB in the first. So I can't use the fact that he wasn't taken in the 2nd or 3rd disqualify Hurney's statement.

I don't really care where he was graded, or where other teams had him on the board. I think it was a smart pick where we got him. Grier is a QB who could be a starter, but we have the luxury of not depending on him to be a starter right now. He's got mechanical issues, but he's years away from being the QB for the Panthers, and a good QB coach can correct his throwing mechanics.

But that’s exactly the problem.

We don’t have the luxury of avoiding other positions of need to draft a 24 year old backup quarterback with our 3rd pick in the draft.

That isn’t going to help us make the playoffs this season. 

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29 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Hurney has a tradition of promoting his picks after making them--sometimes 4 years after.  I remember one interview where he was talking about his picks, referencing Johnson, and Kalil as former "non-first round" picks that became some of the "highest paid players at their positions." 

He paid them.

I also remember that he once referred to Godfrey's salary as a benchmark for effectiveness. 

It is a bit disheartening when he feels the need to sell his picks to us.  I do not care where the player was on another team's board (or how he knows), but I care how they work out on the field.  Who cares if you get the best deal on a car if that car breaks down when you drive it off the lot?

reminds me of how he used to tout that we got so many of our starters in the draft like he was proud of building through the draft

this was between 09-12 when we were finishing with some of the worst records in team history

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I doubt it, but then again, didn't PFF have him as a top 35 guy?  So, it's not a stretch.  I think it's possible teams in the bottom half of the first have a first round grade on him, but most of those teams already have a QB and quality backup, so they don't need him.  And teams draft differently, so even if they gave a first-round grade on him, if they have a second-round grade on a guy at a position of need that could start, again, why would they take him?  

But, conversely, it's hard to believe not 1 of 32 teams would take him over 3 full rounds if they had a 1st round grade on him.

Meh...  just like Gettleman, with the Jones pick, I think these guys arent necessarily throwing facts out, they're throwing out stuff they heard to cement how right they were in making the pick, when they made it.

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17 minutes ago, mjligon said:

The hype around this kid is ridiculous.

Jimmy Clausen likely also had quite a few “first round grades” on him as well.

Hurney sitting around pounding his chest like he struck gold using a third rounder on a position that we all should hope never sees the field.

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i'm telling you its very possible they all hate grier and the plan is to get him injured if cam misses some time.  should only take a few series behind our line.   see our backup qb's last year for examples

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3 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Lol, isn't this the same guy who drafted Cam Newton and Luke Keuchley?

He's gone shopping and thinks he got a steal. Ya'll leave ol' Hurndog alone. This was definitely Scott and Norv.

Yes the same one who drafted Jimmy Clausen and Jeff Otah, as well. 

Just in case you wanted to make a better comparison?

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