Carolina Panthers Roster Projection

[SetfreexX]

Obada is more athletic than Delaire, maybe the same hype / fan excitement but the athleticism difference is pretty pronounced. 

[YoungPanthers89]

8 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

CB - James Bradberry, Ross Cockrell, Donte Jackson, Corn Elder, Lorenzo Doss

S - Eric Reid, Da'Norris Searcy, Rashaan Gaulden, Colin Jones, Free Agent Safety

I mean....this is horrendous 

[WOW!!]

31 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Obada is more athletic than Delaire, maybe the same hype / fan excitement but the athleticism difference is pretty pronounced. 

No the similarities is the fan base falling in love with a player who really isn't going to be a big part of this team..

[Black&BlueBubba]

8 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Pretty much. Although with Addison and Burns they could certainly play a 4-3 or hybrid from time to time. I do believe the 3-4 will be their most common look. Even the Panthers roster on their webpage alludes to that with the "OLB/DE" designation for the first time. 

Of we are actually going 3-4 more than 4-3 I think we will see another DL.  I would guess they go get Bailey now that we have 3-4 parts.  Need more of a rotation at 3-4 DE.  

If that’s the case they will carry 5 WR. 

[Black&BlueBubba]

11 minutes ago, YoungPanthers89 said:

I mean....this is horrendous 

I think the CB’s are serviceable.  They Safties not so much.  If we go get another Safety I think Searcy is gone. 

[KillerKat]

1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

Some of you are really going to be heart broken when Obada doesn't make this team.. You are really Ryan Delairing this situation..

Makes sense if they want to add more 3-4 DL

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Pretty much the exact same player.

I would have compared Damiere Byrd as well, but Delaire works because it's the same position.

Everybody roots for the underdog, and I'm no exception.

I also have a pretty realistic understanding that the underdog is an underdog for a reason.

[AU-panther]

7 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Typical 3-4 team will carry six or seven defensive linemen. Generally that's structured as being two deep at both defensive end spots and two or sometimes three deep at nose tackle.

It varies, of course. I've seen 3-4 teams carry five defensive ends before. Hell, one year the Steelers opened the season with ten linebackers on their roster.

I agree, I'm thinking at least 6.

DE- Short / Love / Cox

DT - Poe / Butler

That's only 5.  I think we try to pick up someone else at some point.  Also I expect Butler to play DE some based on down and distance, but they had him at NT some last year.

6 hours ago, KillerKat said:

This is my best guess atm. Of course, we really don't know where some of these guys will be until after the battle for that position.

To me, I think Little might be a little raw to stick at LT in his rookie season. I think we try him out at LG and then when Williams leaves, put him at RT or have him battle it out with Moton at LT and whoever loses goes to RT. I'm just glad we are finally investing in the line. 

On D, I see Irvin at least starting out in the beginning until Miller or someone else takes over. Thing I'm concerned about is lack of 3-4 DL, but we might be alright with 3 on the field and 2 backups. If they want a 3rd guy, they can cut one of our DEs or LBs. However, after looking at the chart, the possible candidates for that at DE look to be Cox or Obada. I wouldn't want those 2 gone because we need them for the 4-3 rotation. The LB I could see as a possible cut is whoever the 7th 4-3 LB is, which I have as Antione Williams. However, if we let him go then we wouldn't have much depth for 3-4 ILBs and he's the only experienced 3-4 ILB we have on the roster.

I'll also have to wait and see how Cox and Obada would fit in the 3-4, if at all. Addison at least has a little experience at 3-4 OLB but Cox and Obada don't. They have found their success as 4-3 DEs and Rivera may want to keep them in that role for depth purposes. Besides, we already have plenty of bodies for 3-4 OLB.

One other thing I'd like to see is someone stepping up at punt returner. It looked like we had our guy last year in Byrd until he got hurt. This is something really important that can shift the game in your favor. We really need someone here and if no one on the roster can do it, we should find someone else that can. I do not want any of our stars doing it. We don't have anyone else on the roster other than CMC or Moore with NFL experience at this. 

I also thought about something that made me chuckle today. What if all this 3-4 talk just depends on Burns standing up or with a hand on the ground? We can be in the nickel in 4-2 and Burns stands up then suddenly we are 3-3. Or normal 4-3 and he stands up and suddenly we're 3-4. It could be we're all taking this a little too seriously lol.

I know Rivera talked about he'd like no subs when we want to switch to 3-4, but I really don't see how he can avoid subbing out Addison for a NT/DE in the 3-4 unless he views Addison ahead of Irvin and Miller at 3-4 OLB.

 

OFFENSE:
WR1: D.J. Moore - Torrey Smith - #Chris Hogan#
LT: Taylor Moton - *Dennis Daley*
LG: *Greg Little* - Greg Van Roten 
C: #Matt Paradis#- Tyler Larsen
RG: Trai Turner - Brendan Mahon
RT: Daryl Williams 
TE: Greg Olsen - Ian Thomas  - Chris Manhertz 
WR2: Curtis Samuel - Jarius Wright 
QB: Cam Newton - *Will Grier* - Kyle Allen
FB: Alex Armah
RB: Christian McCaffrey - *Jordan Scarlett* -  #Cameron Artis-Payne#

DEFENSE:
4-3
LE: Mario Addison - Bryan Cox Jr. - Efe Obada 
UT: Kawann Short - Vernon Butler - #Destiny Vaeao#
NT: Dontari Poe - #Kyle Love#
RE: *Brian Burns* - Marquis Haynes
SLB: #Bruce Irvin# - *Christian Miller*
MLB: Luke Kuechly - Andre Smith - Antwione Williams
WLB: Shaq Thompson - Jermaine Carter Jr. 
LCB: James Bradberry - Ross Cockrell
RCB: Donte Jackson - Corn Elder - Lorenzo Doss
SS: Eric Reid - Colin Jones 
FS: Da'Norris Searcy - Rashaan Gaulden

3-4
LDE Kawann Short - #Destiny Vaeao#
NT: Dontari Poe - #Kyle Love#
RDE: Vernon Butler
LOLB: #Bruce Irvin# - *Christian Miller* - Mario Addison
LILB: Luke Kuechly - Andre Smith - Antwione Williams
RILB: Shaq Thompson - Jermaine Carter Jr. 
ROLB: *Brian Burns* - Marquis Haynes
LCB: James Bradberry - Ross Cockrell
RCB: Donte Jackson - Corn Elder - Lorenzo Doss
SS: Eric Reid - Colin Jones 
FS: Da'Norris Searcy - Rashaan Gaulden

SPECIAL TEAMS: 
K/KO: Graham Gano
P/H: Michael Palardy
KR: Curtis Samuel - D.J. Moore - Christian McCaffrey
PR: D.J. Moore - Christian McCaffrey - Corn Elder
LS: J.J. Jansen 
 

* = Draft Pick
# = Free Agent
() = Undrafted Free Agent
 

Why does everyone keep putting Love at NT and Butler at DE in our 3-4?  We ran some 3-4 alignments at the end of last year.  People should look at those to get an idea of who might play where. 

[kungfoodude]

11 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Here is how I see the roster shaking out at present. 

 

OFFENSE (25)

QB - Cam Newton , Will Grier, Kyle Allen

RB - Christian McCaffrey, Cameron Artis-Payne, Jordan Scarlett

FB - Alex Armah

TE - Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas, Chris Manhertz

WR - DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel, Torrey Smith, Jarius Wright, Chris Hogan, Terry Godwin

OL - Daryl Williams, Taylor Moton, Matt Paradis, Trai Turner, Greg Little, Tyler Larsen, Greg Van Roten, Brendan Mahon, Dennis Daly

 

Defense (25)

DT - KK Short, Kyle Love, Dontari Poe, Vernon Butler

Edge - Brian Burns, Marquis Haynes, Mario Addison, Christian Miller, Bryan Cox Jr, Bruce Irvin

LB - Luke Kuechly, Shaq Thompson, Jermaine Carter, Andre Smith, Jared Norris

CB - James Bradberry, Ross Cockrell, Donte Jackson, Corn Elder, Lorenzo Doss

S - Eric Reid, Da'Norris Searcy, Rashaan Gaulden, Colin Jones, Free Agent Safety

 

Special Teams (3)

K - Graham Gano

P - Michael Paladry

LS - JJ Jansen

 

 

Thoughts?

Quality depth appears to be an issue at a lot of positions. We will need to stay healthy.

[GoPanthers123]

Remove Torrey Smith and add someone else. It just makes too much sense not to keep him.

[RumHam]

We arent keeping 3 qbs

[Camp Fodder]

5 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

Take out the 5th Safety to add - Obada

Take out Kyle Allen to add - Seymour at corner

Take out Jared Norris add - Elijah Holyfield

I'd rather see the S, QB, and LB on the PS 

Kyle Allen wouldn’t make it thru waivers if cut. He played too well last year to cut. Especially for some JAG corner

[My Goodness My Guinness]

I’ve seen worse rosters 

[Shocker]

Agree this is pretty close, but I think they move on from CAP.  I think Allen wont be on the 53 either.  Definately agree a FS gets added.  Elder may be gone as well.