Panthers had Grier ahead of Kyler Murray and Daniel Jones

[joeyxfresco]

3 minutes ago, raz said:

cam wasn't very good in preaseason though, and we were tripping a bit, and then 400 yds.

Cam was also a 1st, round pick, Heisman winner and National Champion. You knew he just needed to adjust to speed of the NFL. 

Grier was a potential top 10 pick who played his way out of the 1st round in a weak Big 12. Grier’s issue is that he may be an NFL talent

[raz]

i agree.  he's on our team so i'm hoping

 

[TheRed]

7 minutes ago, raz said:

cam wasn't very good in preaseason though, and we were tripping a bit, and then 400 yds.

I distinctly remember a rookie Cam Newton in preseason decimating the entire Bengals defense for a rushing touchdown in the red zone.

No he wasn't obviously regular season Cam Newton, but he still showed immense big play potential.

[raz]

yeah and other teams thought he couldn't throw because of the preseason.   that part ended up hilarious even though we lost those games

[the butch]

On 4/29/2019 at 8:08 PM, firefox1234 said:

All that matters is the one time Hurney needed to hit the mark at QB he did and we got Cam and hopefully this guy wont need to start anytime soon.

Even that is being generous. Some would say Hurney was cornered, the Panthers and Cam were aligned, and the rest is history. 

[TheRed]

6 minutes ago, the butch said:

Even that is being generous. Some would say Hurney was cornered, the Panthers and Cam were aligned, and the rest is history. 

I hear you on this angle, but let's not pretend it was just some foregone conclusion that the Panthers were selecting Newton all along.

On many draft boards Cam wasn't even the consensus top QB prospect let alone the #1 overall pick. Some had Blaine Gabbert and even Jake Locker (LOL) over Cam. Remember that "toughest call in football" magazine cover?

No you can't give Hurney too much credit for taking a gamble, but you damn sure can't take too much away. It took some big balls to tune out all the naysayers and take Cam.

[tiger7_88]

Obviously the Panthers also had Grier ahead of the Patriots Jarrett Stidham (4th round, pick #133, 28 for 43 (65%), 372 yards, 2 TDs, zero interceptions in 2 pre-season games) as well.

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, TheRed said:

I distinctly remember a rookie Cam Newton in preseason decimating the entire Bengals defense for a rushing touchdown in the red zone.

No he wasn't obviously regular season Cam Newton, but he still showed immense big play potential.

Didn’t he go 6-19 passing in that game?

[AggieLean]

I don’t expect much from any of the 3

[Snake]

On 4/29/2019 at 7:32 PM, Mr. Scot said:

That jibes with what Gantt said earlier today on the radio.

Good to see you back. 

[TheRed]

55 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Didn’t he go 6-19 passing in that game?

Did he throw a pick six too?

Last I checked he went on to become rookie of the year.

Preseason doesn't mean everything, but certain tendencies do indeed translate to the regular season.

[Snake]

I think people are really reading way to much onto a few preseason games. If we get to the point of having Greir playing this year, the season is lost already. 

[Davidson Deac II]

2 hours ago, falconidae said:

If Grier had looked like that, people here would be incredibly happy. With good reason. Rodger was obviously raw, but he also showed great mobility and arm strength. 

Both Grier and Allen have shown mobility.  Allen has shown arm strength.  Both of which are irrelevant if you can't throw the ball to the receiver.  
 

That being said, some of the reactions here are ludicrous.  Our backups are very raw.  I don't expect them to look good.  The Bills backup Mccoy has more experience than all of our backups combined.  Of course, they are going to look bad.  

[Carl Spackler]

19 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Did he throw a pick six too?

Last I checked he went on to become rookie of the year.

Preseason doesn't mean everything, but certain tendencies do indeed translate to the regular season.

Did he throw a touchdown pass in his first preseason game? He definitely threw a lot of picks as a rookie too. Just goes to show it isn’t so much the facts as which facts you want to highlight and which facts you want to ignore.  

Look, I’m not expecting Grier to light the world on fire or even look prepared yet. He needs a year before anyone can really figure out what he is. Anything otherwise is just unreasonable and illogical.

That said, it is important to point out that a lot of great QBs suck their first preseason and Cam, despite what you want to believe, was one of them. And that’s OK because he proved he belonged despite people making “Cam is not ready” threads after his second preseason game.