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To all of you who are complaining about not addressing the safety position........

Lloyd Christmas

By Lloyd Christmas,
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You have every right to be complaining. A lot of posters claim that this coaching staff does not value the safety position and apparently you all are correct. They have had multiple opportunities to draft a starting safety in this draft and have passed every time. An argument can be made that a strong pass rush can compensate for any deficiencies in the secondary. However, when the WR is wide open after the snap, the QB don't need to hold on to the ball for more than 2 seconds, making the pass rush pretty much irrelevant. These two areas of defense must complement each other in order to be successful. And another thing.....I don't care what defensive scheme you are running (3-4, 4-3, man, zone), if its 3rd and 3 and the DBs are playing 10 yards off the line of scrimmage, you are going to have a high rate of failure regardless of the quality of your personnel. This idiotic philosophy has got to change.  

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I just don't understand it. Our division rivals have had our defense's number the last few years and a big part of that is the lack of a decent FS. We play our CBs with a big cushion because we have no deep help and teams dink and dunk us to death, then we struggle on third and long because... we have no deep help.

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7 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

your argument for why a pass rush doesnt help doesn't make sense about a safety

 

a CB, sure...  But a wide receiver isnt going to be wide open after two seconds because of a saftey 

If you have help over the top you don't need to be playing CBs 10 yards off the LOS.

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15 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

your argument for why a pass rush doesnt help doesn't make sense about a safety

 

a CB, sure...  But a wide receiver isnt going to be wide open after two seconds because of a saftey 

I was referring to the secondary in general and safety is our weakest link. Does that make sense to you? And maybe the CB playing 10 yards off the LOS is because of lack of talent at safety. Don't understand why that does not make sense to you.

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6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

We also don’t have a nickel CB. Gaulden will get roasted as bad as Captain. He’s the least athletic DB in last year’s draft and we think he’ll hang with the quick slot WRs? We started the draft with FS and nickel as probably the biggest actual holes maybe aside from LG and right now we still sort of have holes at all 3. Williams May slide in to LG, but what if Little really isn’t ready (quite possible)? Van Roten, Gaulden and Colin Jones are still starters right now.

Also, we have multiple backups to Cam now but our offensive cogs (CMC, Samuel and Moore) have no one behind them that’s even close.

Love Burns and Miller, but we missed out on a lot.

Once I saw CGJ go to the Saints early today, I gave up. That cherry on top of utter incompetence from yesterday just turned me off to anything left. 

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1 hour ago, Lloyd Christmas said:

You have every right to be complaining. A lot of posters claim that this coaching staff does not value the safety position and apparently you all are correct. They have had multiple opportunities to draft a starting safety in this draft and have passed every time. An argument can be made that a strong pass rush can compensate for any deficiencies in the secondary. However, when the WR is wide open after the snap, the QB don't need to hold on to the ball for more than 2 seconds, making the pass rush pretty much irrelevant. These two areas of defense must complement each other in order to be successful. And another thing.....I don't care what defensive scheme you are running (3-4, 4-3, man, zone), if its 3rd and 3 and the DBs are playing 10 yards off the line of scrimmage, you are going to have a high rate of failure regardless of the quality of your personnel. This idiotic philosophy has got to change.  

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