LMFAO.... Oh, Falcons, this is amazing.

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, GeorgiaBoyz said:

I’m only bragging about owning you pussies . 

And that's what makes you a pathetic bitch..

In more than century the only achievement you have to talk about is head to head records .. 

We have a better head to head vs the Patriots guess what??? they don't care just like we don't you punkass loser..

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, GeorgiaBoyz said:

I’m sure never having b2b winning seasons broke you . 

Not like it broke you for 46 years.. Falcons fans have been born and died without seeing b2b winning seasons.. Dumbass loser..

[Iron Saint]

On 5/2/2019 at 7:12 AM, steven8989 said:

Panthers all time 25-24 against the taints. Still haven't passed us even with all the wins y'all had against last couple years. Guess what when Brees leaves y'all will be bottom dwellers again. Won't see u on the board anymore.

Easy to say that when y'all didn't come into the League until after our greatest period in franchise history (at the time) with the Dome Patrol concluded. Y'all were able to pad that head-to-head record in the early years and the saddest part was y'all only managed to go 3-3 against us during our pitiful Ditka Era.

But we'll be taking that head-to-head record this coming season, unless we lock up the #1 or #2 seed early and give y'all another free win in Week 17 by resting our starters like we did in 2006, 2009, and 2018. Without those 3 wins against our backups the head-to-head record is 24-22 Saints.

On 5/2/2019 at 9:05 AM, raleigh-panther said:

You do know that Mills didn’t start his career with the Saints in the NFL correct?  He was drafted by the Browns and dint make the team 

never let facts get in the way of a good story

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mills

Shame your coach wasn’t banned from the league for basically trying to maim other NFL players and then that unfortunate Vicodin issue 

Sean Payton is total, absolute scum.  

You do know he wasn't drafted by the Browns, correct? He was an UDFA. Going to come at me about facts but you're going to flub up your own witty comeback by essentially e-stuttering. LOOOOL. Never let facts get in the way of a good story right?

And yeah, he was cut by the Browns and also by the Argonauts. But he never received a fair shake by any professional team until he played for Jim Mora in the USFL so as I previously stated, everyone of y'all can thank Jim Mora for giving him the chance twice to prove that he not only belonged in this League, but he could do it consistently at a high level. There's your good story and facts.

As for attempting to "maim opposing players", you do know that entire farce of an investigation was not only directly refuted by the very players it allegedly "targeted" (Favre calls Saints bounty charges "just hearsay"; Warner didn't think Saints were trying to take him out), but it was also proven false through injury report data that was collected from all 32 teams between 2009 and 2011, right? During that period when the alleged "bounty program" was in operation, our opponents suffered the second fewest injuries in the League with only the Chargers "causing" fewer injuries to opposing players.

If words aren't your thing, here's a graph with pictures that you might be able to understand...

Tip: the further to the top the helmets are equals the total injuries caused by the team and the further to the right the helmets are equals the more injuries to opposing players by defensive players specifically; the line represents the statistical average of those

If we were running a  "bounty program" to the level that Führer Goodell and the ESPN propaganda machine was conjuring up, we'd be sticking out on that chart like the Broncos are. Interesting enough, not only did your own Panthers injure more opposing offensive players and total opposing players than League average, but both of the teams that everyone alleged we targeted in that 2009 playoff run caused more injuries to opposing players on average than we did. Can you explain how that might be?

[Sasquatch]

10 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

 

If words aren't your thing, here's a graph with pictures that you might be able to understand...

Tip: the further to the top the helmets are equals the total injuries caused by the team and the further to the right the helmets are equals the more injuries to opposing players by defensive players specifically; the line represents the statistical average of those

If we were running a  "bounty program" to the level that Führer Goodell and the ESPN propaganda machine was conjuring up, we'd be sticking out on that chart like the Broncos are. Interesting enough, not only did your own Panthers injure more opposing offensive players and total opposing players than League average, but both of the teams that everyone alleged we targeted in that 2009 playoff run caused more injuries to opposing players on average than we did. Can you explain how that might be?

Fact, Saints had a program that monetarily rewarded hits that impacted opposing players physically which was administrated by coaches and team leaders outside NFL rules.

Your picture only proves that the majority of the Saints players (NOT all) were too inept to execute to the coaches desires. 

 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

7 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

Easy to say that when y'all didn't come into the League until after our greatest period in franchise history (at the time) with the Dome Patrol concluded. Y'all were able to pad that head-to-head record in the early years and the saddest part was y'all only managed to go 3-3 against us during our pitiful Ditka Era.

But we'll be taking that head-to-head record this coming season, unless we lock up the #1 or #2 seed early and give y'all another free win in Week 17 by resting our starters like we did in 2006, 2009, and 2018. Without those 3 wins against our backups the head-to-head record is 24-22 Saints.

You do know he wasn't drafted by the Browns, correct? He was an UDFA. Going to come at me about facts but you're going to flub up your own witty comeback by essentially e-stuttering. LOOOOL. Never let facts get in the way of a good story right?

And yeah, he was cut by the Browns and also by the Argonauts. But he never received a fair shake by any professional team until he played for Jim Mora in the USFL so as I previously stated, everyone of y'all can thank Jim Mora for giving him the chance twice to prove that he not only belonged in this League, but he could do it consistently at a high level. There's your good story and facts.

As for attempting to "maim opposing players", you do know that entire farce of an investigation was not only directly refuted by the very players it allegedly "targeted" (Favre calls Saints bounty charges "just hearsay"; Warner didn't think Saints were trying to take him out), but it was also proven false through injury report data that was collected from all 32 teams between 2009 and 2011, right? During that period when the alleged "bounty program" was in operation, our opponents suffered the second fewest injuries in the League with only the Chargers "causing" fewer injuries to opposing players.

If words aren't your thing, here's a graph with pictures that you might be able to understand...

Tip: the further to the top the helmets are equals the total injuries caused by the team and the further to the right the helmets are equals the more injuries to opposing players by defensive players specifically; the line represents the statistical average of those

If we were running a  "bounty program"(Team did in fact have a dirty hit and run system in place) to the level that Führer Goodell and the ESPN propaganda machine was conjuring up, we'd be sticking out on that chart like the Broncos are. Interesting enough, not only did your own Panthers injure more opposing offensive players and total opposing players than League average, but both of the teams that everyone alleged(actual event that did happen) we targeted in that 2009 playoff run caused more injuries to opposing players on average than we did. Can you explain how that might be?

Again still why were Aints players out to do illegal hits on many players throughout the league and you still deny the facts that deliberate hurting of players existed when it did. Yes a Aints staff member encourage this and Sean "Troll Face" Payton(along with a few player minions that did the dirty work) were in on the deal or he would have never been suspended. All of the Aints fan base is either full of cesspool swamp-water or just ignorant that they didn't want to fess up to the dirty deeds they were in fact caught doing.

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

13 hours ago, GeorgiaBoyz said:

I’m bragging about curb stumping you “we loss better in our SBs” ass Dick riders . Clowns lmfaooo 

I see how Failcons had gotten the title "Rise-Up" because you seem to keep bringing up "ass Dick riders" which does belong with the fans of Failcons and that is why they have the "brotherhood" as well because all of you are very close.

[Iron Saint]

On 5/4/2019 at 6:52 AM, Sasquatch said:

Fact, Saints had a program that monetarily rewarded hits that impacted opposing players physically which was administrated by coaches and team leaders outside NFL rules.

Your picture only proves that the majority of the Saints players (NOT all) were too inept to execute to the coaches desires.

That is not a fact because a "pay-to-injure" system was never proven because it never occurred. There never was a single shred of credible evidence produced despite the League maintaining they allegedly had "50,000 pages" of it when in fact the only "evidence" they think they had was the testimony of a disgruntled, former Saints assistant (Mike Cerullo) that was fired after the 2009 season for lackluster job performance due to his proclivity of taking random leave of absences without permission and inability to provide an explanation upon his return. Upon his termination at the conclusion of the Super Bowl winning season, Cerullo sought retribution, specifically against linebackers coach Joe Vitt, and is alleged to have gone far enough to fabricate evidence long after the games in question.

Then the NFL finally reveals their stalwart piece of evidence: a dingy, tattered napkin with a few player names, numbers and dollar signs on it. A napkin. However in his sworn testimony where Cerullo alleged that he was the bookkeeper (which was taken long before the napkin was produced), he specifically states he kept track of cash pledges that were made on notepads. He then states he had computer records of the money pledged to the system that Vitt was to oversee him destroying. So which was it? The records were kept in a notepad, on a computer, or a napkin? So did he just keep really good records of the system or is he a compulsive liar with a vendetta?

Oh, funny story, the NFL then turned around and hired that compulsive liar to a "director of football administration" role in 2017. Sounds like someone got an "atta boy" for their cooperation and participation and got their belly scratched with a cushy job. Does that not even one bit seem fishy to you? That's the equivalent of you owning a franchise of a large corporation and upon you firing some random female employee for poor performance, she falsely accuses you of workplace harrassment and then 5 years later, that corporation then hires that same woman to be the director of HR that oversees the entire company.

"Too inept to execute to the coaches' desires" yet we still went 5-1 against y'all in that span and the lone win was because our starters sat in a meaningless Week 17 game after having the #1 seed locked up, so who exactly are the inept ones?

That picture only shows exactly how full of the League is when they plain and simple needed a scapegoat in the name of "player safety" because they knew they were about to be royally bent over a barrel by the impending concussion lawsuits (that were being filed almost daily against the League) and was still behind the curtain at the time. You can say I'm a conspiracy theorist but weren't y'all just involved in a witchhunt regarding Reid being blackballed? Seems like y'all more than any other team in our division would have your eyes more open to the shady dealings the League does.

On 5/4/2019 at 7:13 AM, rbsponsel52 said:

Again still why were Aints players out to do illegal hits on many players throughout the league and you still deny the facts that deliberate hurting of players existed when it did. Yes a Aints staff member encourage this and Sean "Troll Face" Payton(along with a few player minions that did the dirty work) were in on the deal or he would have never been suspended. All of the Aints fan base is either full of cesspool swamp-water or just ignorant that they didn't want to fess up to the dirty deeds they were in fact caught doing.

Okay, provide me with a comprehensive list of all these "many players" our defense deliberately hurt between 2009 and 2011... without including Brett Favre or Kurt Warner (who both dismissed the existence of a "pay-to-injure" system in the links I provided in my previous post). Go ahead, I'll wait for you, bud. Can't wait to see this list you can conjure up.

If there was actually a "pay-to-injure" system enacted, those player suspensions would've stuck. But they didn't, because there was zero credible evidence corroborating the propoganda that the League pumped down your throats from March 2012 until they were overturned by Paul Tagliabue, and there still hasn't been any evidence surface in the 7 years since.

When your team is the subject of a League-sanctioned witch hunt, we'll prop our feet up and enjoy the show. Oh wait, pretty sure that already happened considering you must be a Patriots fan, what happened to your Belichick avatar? I almost didn't recognize it was you, Patriot Pat.

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

6 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

 When your team is the subject of a League-sanctioned witch hunt, we'll prop our feet up and enjoy the show. Oh wait, pretty sure that already happened considering you must be a Patriots fan, what happened to your Belichick avatar? I almost didn't recognize it was you, Patriot Pat.

So you think I am a Pats fan and had a Belichik avatar. You seriously had some bad eyes because I had a Ron Rivera avatar.

Here is some evidence for you:

The NFL sent a confidential and detailed memo to all 32 teams detailing its findings. It revealed that the Saints had not only targeted Warner and Favre during the 2009 playoffs, but had also targeted Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers and Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton during the 2011 regular season.^[21] According to that memo, Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma offered $10,000 cash to any teammate who knocked Favre out of the NFC Championship Game.^[14] Another source told CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman that Reggie Bush's agent at the time, Michael Ornstein, was closely involved in the scheme from the beginning. Ornstein contributed $10,000 to the pot in 2009, and an undisclosed amount in 2011.

The league found that Payton not only knew about the scheme, but tried to cover it up during both league investigations. During the 2010 investigation, Payton told Williams and Vitt to "make sure our ducks are in a row" when the league interviewed them. Before the start of the 2011 season, Payton received an email from Ornstein detailing the broader lines of the scheme. In that same email, Ornstein offered $5,000 to anyone who knocked Rodgers out of the 2011 season opener. Payton initially denied knowing that this email existed, but subsequently admitted that in fact he had read it.^{[18][22][23][24]}

When Benson was informed of the league's findings, he called in Payton and Loomis and ordered the program shut down immediately. However, they did not do so. Loomis had been interviewed during the 2010 investigation as well, and had stated that he knew of no such scheme and would stop it immediately if it was taking place. The league also found that Vitt, whom Payton had assigned to monitor Williams (the two reportedly didn't get along very well), also knew about the broader lines of the scheme and even witnessed Williams handing out payments to players. However, Vitt failed to tell anyone about it.

Aints fans sure enjoy deep denial of the events that were and reported that the findings were accurate and the evidence was there to prove it did in fact take place.

It was very sad that Mr. Benson had to go through this embarrassment and get him involved.

[Sasquatch]

14 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

That is not a fact because a "pay-to-injure" system was never proven because it never occurred. There never was a single shred of credible evidence produced despite the League maintaining they allegedly had "50,000 pages" of it when in fact the only "evidence" they think they had was the testimony of a disgruntled, former Saints assistant (Mike Cerullo) that was fired after the 2009 season for lackluster job performance due to his proclivity of taking random leave of absences without permission and inability to provide an explanation upon his return. Upon his termination at the conclusion of the Super Bowl winning season, Cerullo sought retribution, specifically against linebackers coach Joe Vitt, and is alleged to have gone far enough to fabricate evidence long after the games in question.

Then the NFL finally reveals their stalwart piece of evidence: a dingy, tattered napkin with a few player names, numbers and dollar signs on it. A napkin. However in his sworn testimony where Cerullo alleged that he was the bookkeeper (which was taken long before the napkin was produced), he specifically states he kept track of cash pledges that were made on notepads. He then states he had computer records of the money pledged to the system that Vitt was to oversee him destroying. So which was it? The records were kept in a notepad, on a computer, or a napkin? So did he just keep really good records of the system or is he a compulsive liar with a vendetta?

Oh, funny story, the NFL then turned around and hired that compulsive liar to a "director of football administration" role in 2017. Sounds like someone got an "atta boy" for their cooperation and participation and got their belly scratched with a cushy job. Does that not even one bit seem fishy to you? That's the equivalent of you owning a franchise of a large corporation and upon you firing some random female employee for poor performance, she falsely accuses you of workplace harrassment and then 5 years later, that corporation then hires that same woman to be the director of HR that oversees the entire company.

"Too inept to execute to the coaches' desires" yet we still went 5-1 against y'all in that span and the lone win was because our starters sat in a meaningless Week 17 game after having the #1 seed locked up, so who exactly are the inept ones?

That picture only shows exactly how full of the League is when they plain and simple needed a scapegoat in the name of "player safety" because they knew they were about to be royally bent over a barrel by the impending concussion lawsuits (that were being filed almost daily against the League) and was still behind the curtain at the time. You can say I'm a conspiracy theorist but weren't y'all just involved in a witchhunt regarding Reid being blackballed? Seems like y'all more than any other team in our division would have your eyes more open to the shady dealings the League does.

Okay, provide me with a comprehensive list of all these "many players" our defense deliberately hurt between 2009 and 2011... without including Brett Favre or Kurt Warner (who both dismissed the existence of a "pay-to-injure" system in the links I provided in my previous post). Go ahead, I'll wait for you, bud. Can't wait to see this list you can conjure up.

If there was actually a "pay-to-injure" system enacted, those player suspensions would've stuck. But they didn't, because there was zero credible evidence corroborating the propoganda that the League pumped down your throats from March 2012 until they were overturned by Paul Tagliabue, and there still hasn't been any evidence surface in the 7 years since.

When your team is the subject of a League-sanctioned witch hunt, we'll prop our feet up and enjoy the show. Oh wait, pretty sure that already happened considering you must be a Patriots fan, what happened to your Belichick avatar? I almost didn't recognize it was you, Patriot Pat.

The ruling was made by the only person empowered to make an interpretation of any evidence , the commish. His determination was shared with all teams. 

"The NFL sent a confidential and detailed memo to all 32 teams detailing its findings. It revealed that the Saints had not only targeted Warner and Favre during the 2009 playoffs, but had also targeted Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers and Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton during the 2011 regular season.^[21] According to that memo, Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma offered $10,000 cash to any teammate who knocked Favre out of the NFC Championship Game.^[14] Another source told CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman that Reggie Bush's agent at the time, Michael Ornstein, was closely involved in the scheme from the beginning. Ornstein contributed $10,000 to the pot in 2009, and an undisclosed amount in 2011.^[22]

After later investigations in the 2012 offseason, the NFL also found evidence that the Saints put a bounty on then-Seattle Seahawks quarterback, Matt Hasselbeck during their 2011 wild-card playoffs game.

The league found that Payton not only knew about the scheme, but tried to cover it up during both league investigations. During the 2010 investigation, Payton told Williams and Vitt to "make sure our ducks are in a row" when the league interviewed them. Before the start of the 2011 season, Payton received an email from Ornstein detailing the broader lines of the scheme. In that same email, Ornstein offered $5,000 to anyone who knocked Rodgers out of the 2011 season opener. Payton initially denied knowing that this email existed, but subsequently admitted that in fact he had read it."

It doesn't matter however many Saints players went to any number of courtrooms and swore out statement. The final ruling is a matter of record. The fact that your own coach admitted lying about the correspondence doesn't help any argument.

 

[ellis]

[Iron Saint]

On 5/6/2019 at 7:50 AM, rbsponsel52 said:

So you think I am a Pats fan and had a Belichik avatar. You seriously had some bad eyes because I had a Ron Rivera avatar.

Here is some evidence for you:

The NFL sent a confidential and detailed memo to all 32 teams detailing its findings. It revealed that the Saints had not only targeted Warner and Favre during the 2009 playoffs, but had also targeted Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers and Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton during the 2011 regular season.^[21] According to that memo, Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma offered $10,000 cash to any teammate who knocked Favre out of the NFC Championship Game.^[14] Another source told CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman that Reggie Bush's agent at the time, Michael Ornstein, was closely involved in the scheme from the beginning. Ornstein contributed $10,000 to the pot in 2009, and an undisclosed amount in 2011.

The league found that Payton not only knew about the scheme, but tried to cover it up during both league investigations. During the 2010 investigation, Payton told Williams and Vitt to "make sure our ducks are in a row" when the league interviewed them. Before the start of the 2011 season, Payton received an email from Ornstein detailing the broader lines of the scheme. In that same email, Ornstein offered $5,000 to anyone who knocked Rodgers out of the 2011 season opener. Payton initially denied knowing that this email existed, but subsequently admitted that in fact he had read it.^{[18][22][23][24]}

When Benson was informed of the league's findings, he called in Payton and Loomis and ordered the program shut down immediately. However, they did not do so. Loomis had been interviewed during the 2010 investigation as well, and had stated that he knew of no such scheme and would stop it immediately if it was taking place. The league also found that Vitt, whom Payton had assigned to monitor Williams (the two reportedly didn't get along very well), also knew about the broader lines of the scheme and even witnessed Williams handing out payments to players. However, Vitt failed to tell anyone about it.

Aints fans sure enjoy deep denial of the events that were and reported that the findings were accurate and the evidence was there to prove it did in fact take place.

It was very sad that Mr. Benson had to go through this embarrassment and get him involved.

I already debunked the myth that Favre or Warner were ever targeted through their own words, if you're going to believe the League over the own players' words themselves then you're just a lost cause.

As for Rodgers and Newton, Rodgers was hit 5 times in Week 1. 3 of those 5 hits were on legal sacks. The remaining two hits weren't flagged. All 5 hits were by players that were not suspended: Casillas, McBride, Galette, Harper, and Ellis.

Newton was hit 3 times in Week 5 and 4 times in Week 17. 3 of those 7 hits in two games also were on legal sacks. Of those 7 total hits PFR counted, 6 were by by players that were not suspended: Jordan (2), Casillas, Ellis, Johnson, and Wilson.

Vilma was the only player suspended that got a hit on Newton or Rodgers and that hit came in the Week 5 game (14:11 left in the 2nd quarter and was not flagged), however this article clearly states the Week 17 game was when there was an alleged bounty on Newton. That brings up another question, in Week 17 what exactly would be the purpose of targeting the rookie QB of a 6-9 team that's long been out of contention of a playoff spot? Hell, even going into the Week 5 game y'all were only 1-3. Targeting Rodgers at least makes sense considering they were just coming off a Super Bowl win (and ended up securing the #1 seed in 2011), but targeting a QB that went 6-10? LOL, no.

Ah, Mike Ornstein! I was waiting for someone to bring up the 2-time-convicted felon. Real standup character guy he is, committing mail fraud in 1995 and then scalping Super Bowl tickets (that were obtained at face value) for profit from 1998-2006. He's a large part of the reason Super Bowl tickets are absurdly overpriced and even a pain in the *** to obtain so if you had trouble getting Super Bowl 50 tickets, be sure to shake his hand if you ever meet him.

Again, a "pay-for-injury" system never occurred. A "pay-for-performance" system, more than likely, not like you know the difference anyway; but a "pay-for-injury" system? No, and the injury data backs that up. Still waiting for you to provide any data you've found contradicting the injury data I've previously provided.

The only thing sad about it was a man was robbed of a year of his career and then the chicken**** League tried to have him fired by convincing two other owners to get Benson on board. But Benson told them to pound sand and now Payton will likely outlast Rivera like he has the other 7 NFC South coaches that were hired and fired since 2006.

On 5/6/2019 at 3:40 PM, Sasquatch said:

The ruling was made by the only person empowered to make an interpretation of any evidence , the commish. His determination was shared with all teams.

It doesn't matter however many Saints players went to any number of courtrooms and swore out statement. The final ruling is a matter of record. The fact that your own coach admitted lying about the correspondence doesn't help any argument.

And that premature ruling was rightfully overturned by Paul Tagliabue, exonerating all players of any wrongdoing and saying Goodell overstepped his power. THAT is your final ruling and matter of record, not the garbage Goodell flung at the wall and tried to make stick. When your former boss has to be called back into the office to fix your massive ****-up, it speaks volumes to the ineptitude that has been in the commissioner chair since 2006.

The fact that the League for decades denied the correlation between the football induced head trauma and CTE doesn't help the argument that the League is, or ever has been, even remotely trustworthy.

Also, why are y'all both copying from Wikipedia? Can't y'all form your own argument about this instead of e-vomiting someone else's opinion back?

On 5/6/2019 at 3:42 PM, ellis said:

I promise you, this is not a route you want to go.

[steven8989]

1 hour ago, Iron Saint said:

I already debunked the myth that Favre or Warner were ever targeted through their own words, if you're going to believe the League over the own players' words themselves then you're just a lost cause.

As for Rodgers and Newton, Rodgers was hit 5 times in Week 1. 3 of those 5 hits were on legal sacks. The remaining two hits weren't flagged. All 5 hits were by players that were not suspended: Casillas, McBride, Galette, Harper, and Ellis.

Newton was hit 3 times in Week 5 and 4 times in Week 17. 3 of those 7 hits in two games also were on legal sacks. Of those 7 total hits PFR counted, 6 were by by players that were not suspended: Jordan (2), Casillas, Ellis, Johnson, and Wilson.

Vilma was the only player suspended that got a hit on Newton or Rodgers and that hit came in the Week 5 game (14:11 left in the 2nd quarter and was not flagged), however this article clearly states the Week 17 game was when there was an alleged bounty on Newton. That brings up another question, in Week 17 what exactly would be the purpose of targeting the rookie QB of a 6-9 team that's long been out of contention of a playoff spot? Hell, even going into the Week 5 game y'all were only 1-3. Targeting Rodgers at least makes sense considering they were just coming off a Super Bowl win (and ended up securing the #1 seed in 2011), but targeting a QB that went 6-10? LOL, no.

Ah, Mike Ornstein! I was waiting for someone to bring up the 2-time-convicted felon. Real standup character guy he is, committing mail fraud in 1995 and then scalping Super Bowl tickets (that were obtained at face value) for profit from 1998-2006. He's a large part of the reason Super Bowl tickets are absurdly overpriced and even a pain in the *** to obtain so if you had trouble getting Super Bowl 50 tickets, be sure to shake his hand if you ever meet him.

Again, a "pay-for-injury" system never occurred. A "pay-for-performance" system, more than likely, not like you know the difference anyway; but a "pay-for-injury" system? No, and the injury data backs that up. Still waiting for you to provide any data you've found contradicting the injury data I've previously provided.

The only thing sad about it was a man was robbed of a year of his career and then the chicken**** League tried to have him fired by convincing two other owners to get Benson on board. But Benson told them to pound sand and now Payton will likely outlast Rivera like he has the other 7 NFC South coaches that were hired and fired since 2006.

And that premature ruling was rightfully overturned by Paul Tagliabue, exonerating all players of any wrongdoing and saying Goodell overstepped his power. THAT is your final ruling and matter of record, not the garbage Goodell flung at the wall and tried to make stick. When your former boss has to be called back into the office to fix your massive ****-up, it speaks volumes to the ineptitude that has been in the commissioner chair since 2006.

The fact that the League for decades denied the correlation between the football induced head trauma and CTE doesn't help the argument that the League is, or ever has been, even remotely trustworthy.

Also, why are y'all both copying from Wikipedia? Can't y'all form your own argument about this instead of e-vomiting someone else's opinion back?

I promise you, this is not a route you want to go.

 

1 hour ago, Iron Saint said:

I already debunked the myth that Favre or Warner were ever targeted through their own words, if you're going to believe the League over the own players' words themselves then you're just a lost cause.

As for Rodgers and Newton, Rodgers was hit 5 times in Week 1. 3 of those 5 hits were on legal sacks. The remaining two hits weren't flagged. All 5 hits were by players that were not suspended: Casillas, McBride, Galette, Harper, and Ellis.

Newton was hit 3 times in Week 5 and 4 times in Week 17. 3 of those 7 hits in two games also were on legal sacks. Of those 7 total hits PFR counted, 6 were by by players that were not suspended: Jordan (2), Casillas, Ellis, Johnson, and Wilson.

Vilma was the only player suspended that got a hit on Newton or Rodgers and that hit came in the Week 5 game (14:11 left in the 2nd quarter and was not flagged), however this article clearly states the Week 17 game was when there was an alleged bounty on Newton. That brings up another question, in Week 17 what exactly would be the purpose of targeting the rookie QB of a 6-9 team that's long been out of contention of a playoff spot? Hell, even going into the Week 5 game y'all were only 1-3. Targeting Rodgers at least makes sense considering they were just coming off a Super Bowl win (and ended up securing the #1 seed in 2011), but targeting a QB that went 6-10? LOL, no.

Ah, Mike Ornstein! I was waiting for someone to bring up the 2-time-convicted felon. Real standup character guy he is, committing mail fraud in 1995 and then scalping Super Bowl tickets (that were obtained at face value) for profit from 1998-2006. He's a large part of the reason Super Bowl tickets are absurdly overpriced and even a pain in the *** to obtain so if you had trouble getting Super Bowl 50 tickets, be sure to shake his hand if you ever meet him.

Again, a "pay-for-injury" system never occurred. A "pay-for-performance" system, more than likely, not like you know the difference anyway; but a "pay-for-injury" system? No, and the injury data backs that up. Still waiting for you to provide any data you've found contradicting the injury data I've previously provided.

The only thing sad about it was a man was robbed of a year of his career and then the chicken**** League tried to have him fired by convincing two other owners to get Benson on board. But Benson told them to pound sand and now Payton will likely outlast Rivera like he has the other 7 NFC South coaches that were hired and fired since 2006.

And that premature ruling was rightfully overturned by Paul Tagliabue, exonerating all players of any wrongdoing and saying Goodell overstepped his power. THAT is your final ruling and matter of record, not the garbage Goodell flung at the wall and tried to make stick. When your former boss has to be called back into the office to fix your massive ****-up, it speaks volumes to the ineptitude that has been in the commissioner chair since 2006.

The fact that the League for decades denied the correlation between the football induced head trauma and CTE doesn't help the argument that the League is, or ever has been, even remotely trustworthy.

Also, why are y'all both copying from Wikipedia? Can't y'all form your own argument about this instead of e-vomiting someone else's opinion back?

I promise you, this is not a route you want to go.

[Sasquatch]

11 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

Not leaving BS laying around

The only place Saint come out of the bounty issue totally vindicated is in their own minds. 

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Tagliabue, appointed by commissioner Roger Goodell to handle the appeals, still found that three of the players engaged in conduct detrimental to the league. He said they participated in a performance pool that rewarded key plays -- including bone-jarring hits -- that could merit fines. But he stressed the team's coaches were very much involved.

The entire case, he said, "has been contaminated by the coaches and others in the Saints' organization."

The team's "coaches and managers led a deliberate, unprecedented and effective effort to obstruct the NFL's investigation," the ruling said.

 

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On 5/3/2019 at 7:00 PM, GeorgiaBoyz said:

I’m bragging about curb stumping you “we loss better in our SBs” ass Dick riders . Clowns lmfaooo 

Good job beating us in the regular season, we have higher goals