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1 minute ago, yasuhara2241 said:

Agree 100% lucky this draft is strong in the areas we were weak. 

Rd 1: Edge. Needed one badly especially a young guy

Rd 2: Oline or Safety: Both are huge needs and I would be happy with either

Rd 3: DT or the 3-4 DE: Big beef as well

Comp: BPA run begins but throw in another lineman or safety wherever we didn't pick in the 2nd

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised about a CB or WR with that comp pick either.

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You have to think the Panthers staff is probably prioritizing OT over anything in the 2nd. They have traditionally not taken the saftey position too seriously in the top two rounds in franchise history. Lot of talk about protecting Cam before the draft...

Since we have that extra 3rd and a 4th, 5th, and 6th, I wouldn't be suprised to see Hurney make a push for a R2 trade up for his offensive lineman of choice. Ford seems like the most sensible choice considering he can play both guard and tackle, which is good considering the injuries to oline weve had in recent seasons. Could stick him in at LG or move a D.Williams to LG and let Ford play RT. Moton seems to be destined to play LT. 

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised about a CB or WR with that comp pick either.

Very true especially corner. All these corners are dropping for some reason. I hated when everyone starting blowing up Joejuan Williams. I originally wanted him in the 3rd and then get a DT with the Comp but then people started talking about him in the first or second so I stopped thinking corner. 

I also now the Panthers seemed to like Lonnie Johnson from Kentucky. 

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28 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

NFL teams don't see him as a RT either, he's a guard, maybe center that can swing in emergency situations

That would be even a bigger shock after all the Best tackle in the draft, most athletic, best prototype size, great feet bla bla bla, best length, long arms etc.

maybe you are right, we will see. No dog in the fight there.

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3 minutes ago, JARROD said:

That would be even a bigger shock after all the Best tackle in the draft, most athletic, best prototype size, great feet bla bla bla, best length, long arms etc.

maybe you are right, we will see. No dog in the fight there.

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Yea I didn't understand all of that on him, he's an all pro guard or center but I don't think he's a RT or LT in the NFL. At least not at first, maybe could develop into a really good RT in 2-3 years. 

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47 minutes ago, Pantha-kun said:

Would not mind double dipping at DE here. Winnovich and Polite are very serious DE prospects.

Realistically, Panthers will take the best OT/OG hybrid or best Saftey available. 

Most likely pick : Cody Ford

If the run continues on top DE we will have Taylor Ford or Risner or cough cough Little to pick.

the wild card is Byron Murphy and Adderley— if they make it, I’ll cry but we have to take one. That allows Jackson to be in the slot, damn we would probably have won 10 games last year if our secondary wouldn’t allow crazy bombs to lose close games. Anyone still throw up over seattle last year? I do.

I think if Polite or Hollis or Jelks is there in the 3rd we would have to take them with 3-13. 

Then I would love another 3 technique if any still exist by then like maybe Buggs

the 4th-7th picks, so many other positions like RB and WR are sliding so bad there will be 2nd round picks taken late and 3rd or 4th round guys going undrafted

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Per Josh Norris:

T JAWAAN TAYLOR, FLORIDA (20TH OVERALL)

Age: 22 | Athletic Profile: ?

Where He Wins: The play is over when you’re in his grasp. He’ll move you exactly where he wants you to go in the running game, or he will completely halt your momentum in pass pro. And if you try to counter with an inside move, you aren’t going far. Power.

Forecast: Plenty of right tackle experience, which is just as important as left tackles. The issue is it is not always pretty. Sometimes his feet are lethargic. Sometimes his hands and hips are late, so he’ll lose on dips to the outside.

WR A.J. BROWN, OLE MISS (21ST OVERALL)

Age: 22 | Athletic Profile: 75th percentile

Where He Wins: Generates instant separation with his animated footwork in routes. Jabs in his breaks and gets downhill quickly out of the slot. If you play off of him, Brown will keep you guessing and work off your false steps to create space. In tight man he will jab and plant to separate. Plenty of exposures winning short, intermediate and deep, and shows sideline and downfield adjustment.

Forecast: Mostly viewed as an inside receiver, but took over on the outside when Metcalf went down. If I were forced to predict which receiver in this draft will be most productive in their rookie year, regardless of landing spot, I’d choose Brown.

WR D.K. METCALF, OLE MISS (22ND OVERALL)

Age: 21 | Athletic Profile: 99th percentile

Where He Wins: Possibly the most athletically imposing player on the field whenever he steps foot on it. Everything is built off the linear plane. Seels vertical route with his size and speed, breaks off of it after corners are fearful of the deeper routes. Uses his physicality on his releases. Will also use that size to shield defenders on bucket catches, creating natural separation. If he’s even, he’s leaving.

Forecast: This is not a clean evaluation. Metcalf was glued to the left side of the formation. He was able to focus on just one set of releases. One set of routes. Footwork from one alignment. That’s a similar hurdle Kevin White tried to overcome. Then his agility scores were horrific. These are the difficulties prospects run into and why evaluating is difficult. Let’s bank on NFL coaching.

WR MILES BOYKIN, NOTRE DAME (23RD OVERALL)

Age: 23 | Athletic Profile: 99th percentile

Where He Wins: Such a fluid mover for his size. Easy releases, even against press to create instant space. And if you play off him, he can put corners in a blender with footwork and animated breaks. Free release strides eat up ground so quickly. Then when he faces press, Boykin displays a variety of releases.

Forecast: Has real potential to win in both the big and small receiver game. That is not common. Boykin is far more than a Combine product. I would argue is production was lower than some others in this class due to poor quarterback play for stretches of the season. He has a chance to be very special, and to me moves eerily like Martavis Bryant.

CB GREEDY WILLIAMS, LSU (26TH OVERALL)

Age: 21 | Athletic Profile: 68th

Where He Wins: Faced some of the fastest receivers in this class and played outstanding. Understood Metcalf ran everything off a vertical line, so he anticipated routes play after play, consistently disrupting the catch point. Then turn on his game agains Texas A&M and you see him run the slant for the outside receiver. His ball skills to track passes show up in practically every game.

Forecast: It is difficult to know which team will start the corner run in this draft, and which one it will be. Per PFF, Williams only allowed 27 completions on 74 targets. He projects as an outside corner.

OL DALTON RISNER, KANSAS STATE (27TH OVERALL)

Age: 24 | Athletic Profile: 42nd percentile

Where He Wins: Experience at multiple spots along the offensive line: Center for all 13 games his freshman year, right tackle beyond that. His goal is to damage you as a run blocker with a finisher’s mentality at the end of plays. That goes to pass protection as well, where he is known to toss pass rushers. It might not always look pretty, but Risner consistently accomplished his assignment.

Forecast: Risner’s career trajectory might follow Cody Whitehair’s, a tackle who moves inside to center in the NFL. I bet there are teams that view him at that anchor spot, others see him as a guard and a few see him at tackle. That might ultimately be a positive, as offensive linemen with as much positive tape as Risner has rarely get out of the top 40 picks.

CB BYRON MURPHY, WASHINGTON (28TH OVERALL)

Age: 21 | Athletic Profile: 46th percentile

Where He Wins: Great combination of sticking with receivers’ whose goal is to create separation, then catch match up with a more physical receiver while staying patient in his press, slowing down the receiver can closing the catch point to deny a catch. In off coverage, his timing to close on the catch is very good. He’s going to come up and smack you when in cover 2 versus a short pass.

Forecast: Has sub-31-inch arms, but from what I saw he fits every single scheme.

OL CODY FORD, OKLAHOMA (29TH OVERALL)

Age: 22 | Athletic Profile: 35th percentile

Where He Wins: He’s the terminator at the second level, will absolutely annihilate players trying to get into the mix or close on the ball carrier. Defensive backs, linebackers, dropping linemen, it doesn't matter. Hands, feet, and posture all work together in pass pro, and he looks to finish even in passing situations.

Forecast: Plenty of reps at left tackle, but I wonder if some teams will want to move him inside to guard. It all comes down to if teams believe in his foot speed and mirror capabilities on an island on the outside.

IDL DRE’MONT JONES, OHIO STATE (31ST OVERALL)

Age: 22 | Athletic Profile: 20th percentile

Where He Wins: Can win instantly with movement and hands, releases, and closes quickly. Obviously shows flexibility in his ankles and hips when immediately reacting to the ball carrier. This is very evident when reacting to a surprising movement in front of him. Many interior players get stuck in the mud or take multiple steps. Jones is very fluid. Love those movement skills. 

Forecast: He has the ability to win, but he still lacks a plan and to chain moves. The poor athletic testing was a bit of a surprise considering how well he moves.

   
34. S Nasir Adderley, Delaware 60. CB Lonnie Johnson, Kentucky
35. S Juan Thornhill, Virginia 62. EDGE D'Andre Walker, Georgia
36. S Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Florida 63. EDGE Chase Winovich, Michigan
37. WR JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Stanford 64. OL Greg Little, Ole Miss
40. CB Rock Ya-Sin, Temple 65. iDL Zach Allen, Boston College
41. WR Deebo Samuel, South Carolina 66. QB Will Grier, West Virginia
42. CB Julian Love, Notre Dame 67. G Dru Samia, Oklahoma
43. CB Justin Layne, Michigan State 68. iDL Khalen Saunders, Western Illinois
44. EDGE Christian Miller, Alabama 69. EDGE Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan
45. iOL Elgton Jenkins, Miss State 70. iDL Trysten Hill, UCF
47. S Taylor Rapp, Washington 71. TE Irv Smith, Alabama
50. QB Drew Lock, Missouri 72. WR Riley Ridley, Georgia
51. CB David Long, Michigan 73. RB Devine Ozigbo, Nebraska
52. OT Chuma Edoga, USC 74. RB Darrell Henderson, Memphis
53. iDL Renell Wren, Arizona State 75. RB Miles Sanders, Penn State
54. iOL Erik McCoy, Texas A&M 76. WR Stanley Morgan, Nebraska
55. RB Devin Singletary, FAU 77. WR Andy Isabella, UMass
56. RB David Montgomery, Iowa State 78. WR Emanuel Hall, Missouri
58. S Deionte Thompson, Alabama 79. WR Parris Campbell, Ohio State
59. EDGE Anthony Nelson, Iowa 80. EDGE Ben Banogu, TCU
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