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Burns is way too small to be effectiveeeee.....!!!!!!!

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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L-TownCat Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, Prime said:

17 sacks is a project? Lol. Davenport is a project. We got ourselves a better pure pass rusher then Davenport and we didn't have to trade a first for him.

17 sacks is not the issue.  His size is the issue.  Until he proves he can gain mass, not lose his burst AND shore up his run d, he is potential with pass rush skills.  Thats it.

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20 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

Yeah I'm lukewarm on the pick. I sort of feel like it didnt matter how the board fell...Hurney was locked in no matter on Burns no matter who dropped. 

I feel like this is the Everette Brown pick all over again.

Yea but does he have a spin move...

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9 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

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Very few who are complaining are doing so *IF* our base defense is a 3-4.

Von Miller would have the same SEVERE drawback if he was tasked to play DE in a 4-3.

So will we be playing 3-4 as our base defense (i.e. more than 80% of the time)?

Or will Burns be tasked to play out of position and severely undersized in a base 4-3 with a sprinkling of 3-4?

And if we’re moving to a base 3-4, where are all those 300+ lb 3-4 DEs we’re gonna need? KK Short would be one.... who else?

And, again, if we’re moving to a base 3-4, what is gonna be done with all of our 270-280 lb 4-3 DEs?  Play them undersized and out of position at 3-4 DE? Or transition them to 3-4 OLB which most will have neither the nimbleness or speed to play? 

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I love that the only real question around this guy is whether he can put on some mass, and he's already proven he can add without sacrificing speed. And Tepper's expanding the players' cafeteria? Get him a couple of bo boxes with some sweet tea and we're golden. Have we ever had a player struggle to put weight on down here?

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1 minute ago, Fox007 said:

He can put on even more weight just like CMC when people said CMC was too small....

He doesnt need to if we play a base 3-4.

If we’re staying with a 4-3, what is going to happen to his speed and moves if he puts on 25+ lbs? If memory serves, CMC only gained around 10?

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2 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

He doesnt need to if we play a base 3-4.

If we’re staying with a 4-3, what is going to happen to his speed and moves if he puts on 25+ lbs? If memory serves, CMC only gained around 10?

They are probably influenced by Mario Addison of all people. He came into the league UDFA even smaller than Burns but Burns has first round talent to go with it. Seems the team is keeping it somewhat tight on the 3-4/4-3 and I don't imagine we will convert to always using the 3-4. In terms of 4-3 alignments we used to move Hardy into the middle to bring in smaller but faster edge rushers and if it is a clear pass rushing down/distance it won't matter what his size is he'll be there to get around the edge quickly while KK has the middle being pressured.

(theoretically ofc)

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Burns first step and straight ahead speed coming from a hand in the dirt position is comparable to Miller.  However, as a stand up OLB Miller’s change of direction is substantially superior as measured by the 3 cone numbers.  Miller (6.7)... Burns (7.01) . This may be due to the height difference,but explains why Miller is so good in space.

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5 minutes ago, sml1950 said:

Burns first step and straight ahead speed coming from a hand in the dirt position is comparable to Miller.  However, as a stand up OLB Miller’s change of direction is substantially superior as measured by the 3 cone numbers.  Miller (6.7)... Burns (7.01) . This may be due to the height difference,but explains why Miller is so good in space.

Thats still quick Kalil Macks 3 cone was 7.08

 

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10 hours ago, KillerKat said:

So we're full time 3-4 now? Or is he only coming in when we play 3-4? Or is he playing 4-3 DE then 3-4 OLB? I think the thing people are worried about is the 4-3 DE part due to size although, I'd be concerned if yes is the answer for the first 2 questions.

Not that I put a ton of stock into it, but the Panthers had him announced as a Linebacker.

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4 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Well I got my edge. Maybe not the one I wanted. I'm just not the guy who worries about having a big heart. Sounds like an attribute to me. So torn on this. Guess we will forever compare Burns vs Sweat. Hey don't get me wrong Cam vs Blaine played out pretty well for us.

I'm a guy who worries about being told a player "doesn't respond to yelling".

After hearing that, I wouldn't have touched sweat with a ten-foot pole.

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