Cards shopping Rosen for a 3...

[micnificent28]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not if they saw his rookie year tape.

See Jared Goff... 

[Palmetto]

1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

Umm not sure it always works that way. Players fail all the time. If you hire a coach you allow him to win with his guys.. you don’t say win with this kid we drafted last year or your fired.

In other words you dont believe in the QB

Its why coaches get interviewed before they are hired

If you think a guy is your QB you bring in a coach that will work him not the other way around

[Palmetto]

2 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

See Jared Goff... 

Notice how the Rams hired a coach to work with Goff not bring in his own QB

[steven8989]

50 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Again.. your one of those stat watchers who drafts and plans based on numbers. My clear feelings for Gary should tell you you are barking up the wrong tree with that. Again, He was a first rounder and a top 10 pick. He would be the number 1 pick in this class, Grier is fighting to go behind Daniel Jones.

Coaches and situations Can effect stats, more production or less production scheme and so on. That’s why you look at traits, decision making and ability above all else. Production can be used to confirm ability but it isn’t a he threw for more yards kind of thing that gets you drafted.

Sorry bud I watched film and he is a gunslinger and Rosen didn't have any of those traits. Sorry but it's not happening anyway.

[micnificent28]

3 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

Notice how the Rams hired a coach to work with Goff not bring in his own QB

Two different scenarios. You want it to work that way, but if your coach you already hired to do a job says I need this guy to run my system, where Rosen is basically a statue and Murray is Vick-ese quickness you can’t possibly expect them to play similar. Again a 10 pick in the draft qb isn’t what it use to be. If your coach says I need this guy then u give it to him and try to recoup some value from Rosen.. they tried to get a a first and they still might. It’s not the same as admitting failure.

[micnificent28]

3 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

Sorry bud I watched film and he is a gunslinger and Rosen didn't have any of those traits. Sorry but it's not happening anyway.

Damn sorry “Hurney” talking about what might happen in your future decision  that you haven’t made yet. Both are gunslingers one just is better than the other.

[steven8989]

28 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Rosen would be the number one pick in this bad qb class and Grier isn’t even in the first round. Do some research.

[Carl Spackler]

29 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Rosen would be the number one pick in this bad qb class and Grier isn’t even in the first round. Do some research.

[says Rosen is better in arm strength, accuracy and decision-making compared to Grier]

[stats prove Grier is better in all categories]

[Rosen's QB rating last year was only slightly better than Jimmy Clausen in 2010]

[tells us to do some research]

[Palmetto]

4 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Two different scenarios. You want it to work that way, but if your coach you already hired to do a job says I need this guy to run my system, where Rosen is basically a statue and Murray is Vick-ese quickness you can’t possibly expect them to play similar. Again a 10 pick in the draft qb isn’t what it use to be. If your coach says I need this guy then u give it to him and try to recoup some value from Rosen.. they tried to get a a first and they still might. It’s not the same as admitting failure.

don't hire the coach to begin with  If you think Rosen is a Franchise QB

when Kingsbury is being interviewed and he says i cant work with Rosen  that should be the end of the interview!!

If Rosen is the guy  like the Rams believed with Goff you hire a guy that fits with the franchise Qb

[Palmetto]

36 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Rosen would be the number one pick in this bad qb class and Grier isn’t even in the first round. Do some research.

Josh Allen was drafted ahead of Rosen just last year and that guy sucked

how could he be the number one pick this season if the team with the number one pick is thinking about trading him to pick another guy number 1

[micnificent28]

9 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

 

7 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

[says Rosen is better in arm strength, accuracy and decision-making compared to Grier]

[stats prove Grier is better in all categories]

[Rosen's QB rating last year was only slightly better than Jimmy Clausen in 2010]

[tells us to do some research]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/good-morning-football/0ap3000001020903/How-does-Josh-Rosen-compare-to-2019-rookie-quarterback-prospects yes do some research... 

[trueblade]

I'd say don't give up a 3rd for a Rosen. I'm still of the mind that if Cam doesn't hold up this year, we just need to endure the 4-12 campaign and select a starting QB from next year's class which is considered by most to be superior to this years. Load up on OL and DL, specifically OL since next year's crop isn't looking all that special right now. Williams either plays well and earns himself into a huge payday or he plays poorly/gets hurt. Either way he'll need to be replaced. Probably better to get a potential this year and let him have a year to adjust to the NFL.

[micnificent28]

2 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

Josh Allen was drafted ahead of Rosen just last year and that guy sucked

how could he be the number one pick this season if the team with the number one pick is thinking about trading him to pick another guy number 1

Josh Allen sucked lol ok I’m done with you lol.

[Palmetto]

1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

Josh Allen sucked lol ok I’m done with you lol.

Good! youre one of those guys that gets attached to a player and ignore all the flaws of the player to defend him to the ends of the earth