Tony Pauline: Panthers infatuated with Will Grier, will consider him at #47

[CPF4LIFE]

11 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Can't build a good football team.like that. 

You also cant build a good team by drafting a backup qb early when you need STARTERS for at least 3 other positions.

[steven8989]

10 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Backup quarterback is one of those holes. And given that they're not absolutely certain Newton can finish a full season, it's reasonable to give it a hard look.

As to Allen, please 

The guy played one game which was basically under preseason conditions. The only thing he earned was the right to compete for a job. It's not even absolutely guaranteed he'll even make the team.

Man I can't get nobody to understand this.

[CPF4LIFE]

9 hours ago, CBDellinger said:

Cam hasn’t thrown a football since... the saints game? 

Why wouldn’t they be looking at qbs?

If the counter is let’s tank if cams toast... just stop.  They aren’t gonna do that.  

No they are not, but its Because they care about their jobs more. Its not about winning championships but winning ENOUGH so i dont get FIRED. We know the game with Rivera. 

[emcannon]

[Trill OG]

8 hours ago, RIAnBOW said:

Have you considered possibility that they do know?

How can you know if he hasn't performed after the surgery?

You don't make a franchise changing decision based off a half a season. People forget the first part of the year Cam was playing great. Chill out and watch what happens this year. If he is done you get your replacement QB in the 1st round next year.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Trill OG said:

How can you know if he hasn't performed after the surgery?

You don't make a franchise changing decision based off a half a season. People forget the first part of the year Cam was playing great. Chill out and watch what happens this year. If he is done you get your replacement QB in the 1st round next year.

Again, that's not how it works.

You don't just give up on a season because one player can't go, even if it's your star quarterback. That basically amounts to telling every other guy on the team they don't really matter.

[LinvilleGorge]

Does anyone really think that Grier would be any better as a rookie than Allen? Really?

If Cam goes down again, the season is tanked anyway and we're looking for a QB in the 1st next year no matter what.

[emcannon]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Again, that's not how it works.

You don't just give up on a season because one player can't go, even if it's your star quarterback. That basically amounts to telling every other guy on the team they don't really matter.

Again, you're misreading that people are advocating for intentional tanking/giving up on the season. As things stand now, we roll with QB1, who gives this team a legitimate chance at the playoffs. If for some unfortunate reason QB1 went down, the natural course of events would lead us to a high draft slot.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, emcannon said:

Again, you're misreading that people are advocating for intentional tanking/giving up on the season. As things stand now, we roll with QB1, who gives this team a legitimate chance at the playoffs. If for some unfortunate reason QB1 went down, the natural course of events would lead us to a high draft slot.

The guys who run the team aren't interested in "the natural course of events". And no coach in the NFL is going to just "chill out and see what happens".

Their job is to win, every season, including this one. And if they have doubts about Newton's health, that means securing the best backup option possible.

[emcannon]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

The guys who run the team aren't interested in "the natural course of events". And no coach in the NFL is going to just "chill out and see what happens".

Their job is to win, every season, including this one. And if they have doubts about Newton's health, that means securing the best backup option possible.

So I just want to be clear that it's your opinion that drafting Will Grier in the 2nd gives the Panthers the best chance to win this season?

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Does anyone really think that Grier would be any better as a rookie than Allen? Really?

If Cam goes down again, the season is tanked anyway and we're looking for a QB in the 1st next year no matter what.

If the Panthers take him in the second round, then the answer to that question would be Norv Turner.

And there's no way the Panthers could, or should, resign themselves to that kind of thinking.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If the Panthers take him in the second round, then the answer to that question would be Norv Turner.

And there's no way the Panthers could, or should, resign themselves to that kind of thinking.

It won't matter if we resign ourselves to that kind of think or not.  If Cam's shoulder goes out again we better hope it happens early so we can be in the Tua/Murray sweepstakes.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, emcannon said:

So I just want to be clear that it's your opinion that drafting Will Grier in the 2nd gives the Panthers the best chance to win this season?

It's my opinion that the Panthers might believe that.

Said it already: I've believed for a while now that the Panthers are going to take a quarterback in this draft. I don't know who and I don't know what round it will be in. Grier in the second is one possibility, and it's the possibility that's getting the most chatter, but it's not the only one.

If it had been up to me, I would have gone after a veteran backup. The Panthers didn't choose to do that, believing instead of that drafting one was the better option. They might turn out to be right, they might turn out to be wrong, we'll see.

The only thing I find utterly ridiculous is suggesting that they just take their chances. You can throw away a season in Madden, but not in the real world.

[pantherclaw]

39 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

You also cant build a good team by drafting a backup qb early when you need STARTERS for at least 3 other positions.

At what point are you going to stop ignoring the writing on the wall?