Will Grier interview on ESPN and ABC

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Because he's a raging paranoid, and unfortunately it sounds like Mayock is too.

Mayock's own daughter sent a message out to the scouts apologizing. She said not to take offense because "he doesn't trust anybody".

  And Mayock and Gruden have been on both sides of the fence. You think they don’t know how things leak. And that it matters. If every team knows who teams need, it should be easy to predict our pick. All reports are valid because teams don’t do anything to put out false information. Is that really what you believe? No NFL coach I’ve ever known has been truthful about everything. 

  How much “resources” are a dinner or a workout? A couple hours and a plane ticket? In a Billion dollar industry? To hide your draft intentions. Why is that so hard to believe? 

 

[Sub Zero]

2 hours ago, steven8989 said:

LMAO. Yeah I guess u haven't watched him play. Clausen was not that good.

Andy Dalton than.. I still rather have a guy who can develop into a star QB.. Not a perpetual game manager..

[steven8989]

2 hours ago, ARSEN said:

His career.  Even watch his highlight reel... 70% of highlights are 50/50 over the top balls where WR bails his ass out.

Yeah right dude. 81 TDS and 23 ints. Look at those stats!

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

I guess everybody "assumes" that than because thats the general consensus.. Next 2 draft are deeper and better for QB'S.. If your GM doesn't know that while everybody else does.  We're fuged any way..

If Cam's healthy than you can still draft a QB next year again "In a deeper and better QB draft".. While securing the future around Cam and the new QB this year.. With the better trench draft this year is...

Yeah I agree we should draft one this year and next. That way we double our chances we get a good quarterback sooner or later. A third round compensatory pick is not that big a deal to.potentially land a credible backup and potential starter down the road.

[steven8989]

2 hours ago, ARSEN said:

You asked me about TN game and I said career.  You have trouble reading?  Look, I know your homer instincts are kicking in but Grier is not good.  All analysts say he’s not good and likely will never be a good fit for NFL... 

I haven't heard any analysts say that, he will be a starter in the NFL soon. Might not be us but he will be starter count on it.

[steven8989]

1 hour ago, emcannon said:

FOH. Cam Newton is our QB, and a damn good one at that. Picking Grier in the 2nd makes absolutely no sense. None whatsoever.

If Cam's shoulder isn't good to go this year, then we don't re-sign him, we tank and guess what? We're at the top of the draft either next year or the year after for what are supposed to be stellar QB classes. Grier doesn't even scratch the surface in comparison to the QB talent coming out the next 2 years.

People y'all not to quit with the tanking poo, teams don't do that. We what Luke, Olsen, and CMC. They are not giving up on a season just to get a top 5 pick for a QB. 

[panthers55]

38 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

Irvin and Addison  don't  play the same position..  Irvin won't be on the Dline like that.. He's either a 3/4 olb or a 4/3 strong side Lb.. 

And i see this Obada thing is overblown.. You have already Ryan Delaired him..lol

I don't know what happen to your football knowledge but be clear any of the top 6 pass rushers are starters day 1. Over Obada, Cox, and who ever you imagine is good on this roster..

Duh. Both will rush the passer whether with 2 hands or one hand in the dirt. News flash. In a 3-4 the rush comes from anyone of 7 or 8 players. So the position they play doesn't matter that much.

To be clear there are plenty of busts in the first round at DE or the edge.and to automatic assume any and all of them will be great obviously shows your lack of football knowledge of past drafts.

[Sub Zero]

7 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Duh. Both will rush the passer whether with 2 hands or one hand in the dirt. News flash. In a 3-4 the rush comes from anyone of 7 or 8 players. So the position they play doesn't matter that much.

To be clear there are plenty of busts in the first round at DE or the edge.and to automatic assume any and all of them will be great obviously shows your lack of football knowledge of past drafts.

You keep talking about assumption.   I'm talking facts.  They don't have to be great to be better than Obada and Cox.. Reality check..

[steven8989]

Here is something for all the haters to read:

West Virginia's Will Grier has sort of become the forgotten quarterback in this draft class. Murray has commanded most of the attention, obviously, and Ohio State's Dwayne Haskins has had his time in the spotlight—even if it's recently been because teams may not be as high on him as earlier believed.

Duke's Daniel Jones and Missouri's Drew Lock are also both firmly in the Round 1 conversation—NFL Media's Lance Zierlein has mocked both as first-rounders. Grier, meanwhile, has taken a back seat to the big four.

However, the West Virginia signal-caller is a tremendous quarterback prospect who flashes vision, accuracy and the ability to throw receivers open on film. He has adequate height at 6'2" and while he did play in a wide-open West Virginia offense, he has shown the ability to make NFL throws from the pocket.

ESPN's Adam Schefter called Grier "a riser" after the quarterback "put on a show" at West Virginia's pro day.

It shouldn't come as a shock if a team is quietly high on Grier and snaps him up near the back of Round 1.

West Virginia's Will Grier has sort of become the forgotten quarterback in this draft class. Murray has commanded most of the attention, obviously, and Ohio State's Dwayne Haskins has had his time in the spotlight—even if it's recently been because teams may not be as high on him as earlier believed.

Duke's Daniel Jones and Missouri's Drew Lock are also both firmly in the Round 1 conversation—NFL Media's Lance Zierlein has mocked both as first-rounders. Grier, meanwhile, has taken a back seat to the big four.

However, the West Virginia signal-caller is a tremendous quarterback prospect who flashes vision, accuracy and the ability to throw receivers open on film. He has adequate height at 6'2" and while he did play in a wide-open West Virginia offense, he has shown the ability to make NFL throws from the pocket.

ESPN's Adam Schefter called Grier "a riser" after the quarterback "put on a show" at West Virginia's pro day.

It shouldn't come as a shock if a team is quietly high on Grier and snaps him up near the back of Round 1.

[panthers55]

24 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

I guess everybody "assumes" that than because thats the general consensus.. Next 2 draft are deeper and better for QB'S.. If your GM doesn't know that while everybody else does.  We're fuged any way..

If Cam's healthy than you can still draft a QB next year again "In a deeper and better QB draft".. While securing the future around Cam and the new QB this year.. With the better trench draft this year is...

First of all we aren't picking a class of quarterbacks we are picking one. Just because there are good underclass prospects doesn't mean they actually live up to their potential in college let alone in the pros. So how good will we be if we don't happen to make the right choice. Then did a deep class matter?  We aren't drafting 5 QBs just one. And unless they all are better than anyone this year it will be a crap shoot this year or next. There aren't 5 or 6 can't miss quarterbacks in any of the next 2 year drafts. No matter how good or deep.

[Sub Zero]

1 minute ago, steven8989 said:

Here is something for all the haters to read:

West Virginia's Will Grier has sort of become the forgotten quarterback in this draft class. Murray has commanded most of the attention, obviously, and Ohio State's Dwayne Haskins has had his time in the spotlight—even if it's recently been because teams may not be as high on him as earlier believed.

Duke's Daniel Jones and Missouri's Drew Lock are also both firmly in the Round 1 conversation—NFL Media's Lance Zierlein has mocked both as first-rounders. Grier, meanwhile, has taken a back seat to the big four.

However, the West Virginia signal-caller is a tremendous quarterback prospect who flashes vision, accuracy and the ability to throw receivers open on film. He has adequate height at 6'2" and while he did play in a wide-open West Virginia offense, he has shown the ability to make NFL throws from the pocket.

ESPN's Adam Schefter called Grier "a riser" after the quarterback "put on a show" at West Virginia's pro day.

It shouldn't come as a shock if a team is quietly high on Grier and snaps him up near the back of Round 1.

West Virginia's Will Grier has sort of become the forgotten quarterback in this draft class. Murray has commanded most of the attention, obviously, and Ohio State's Dwayne Haskins has had his time in the spotlight—even if it's recently been because teams may not be as high on him as earlier believed.

Duke's Daniel Jones and Missouri's Drew Lock are also both firmly in the Round 1 conversation—NFL Media's Lance Zierlein has mocked both as first-rounders. Grier, meanwhile, has taken a back seat to the big four.

However, the West Virginia signal-caller is a tremendous quarterback prospect who flashes vision, accuracy and the ability to throw receivers open on film. He has adequate height at 6'2" and while he did play in a wide-open West Virginia offense, he has shown the ability to make NFL throws from the pocket.

ESPN's Adam Schefter called Grier "a riser" after the quarterback "put on a show" at West Virginia's pro day.

It shouldn't come as a shock if a team is quietly high on Grier and snaps him up near the back of Round 1.

Red Rocket written all over him..l lol

Serious Questions.. If he wasn't a Charlotte kid would any you really be pumped about the idea??

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

You keep talking about assumption.   I'm talking facts.  They don't have to be great to be better than Obada and Cox.. Reality check..

You clearly don't know the difference between a fact and opinion and your statement just proves it.  You.must have been absent that day in fourth grade when they went over that.

[LinvilleGorge]

It's hilarious how people post media draft analysts' opinions of a prospect as if it's proof of anything. The only proof is what a guy eventually does in the NFL. There are top 10 busts and mid-late round steals in ever draft.

[Sub Zero]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

First of all we aren't picking a class of quarterbacks we are picking one. Just because there are good underclass prospects doesn't mean they actually live up to their potential in college let alone in the pros. So how good will we be if we don't happen to make the right choice. Then did a deep class matter?  We aren't drafting 5 QBs just one. And unless they all are better than anyone this year it will be a crap shoot this year or next. There aren't 5 or 6 can't miss quarterbacks in any of the next 2 year drafts. No matter how good or deep.

I'm sorry what point you trying to make??

4 of the QB coming out next year are already better and rated higher than Grier.. Most of them are already rated higher than  Kyler Murray.. So what are you talking about . 

If all we want is 1 QB i'd be choosing that 1 QB from a better crop of Qb's .. If I need a pair of pants I rather buy them from Macy's not Walmart... You get it??

You like i grier i think he is a game manager not worth a 2nd round pick.. This won't change so agree to disagree.