Our entire draft direction is contingent on Moton.

[JARROD]

Im with the thinking that it’s Moton on the left and Williams on the right. If we draft a guy, hopefully it’s Jonah or Ford where they plug into guard right away and can move to RT assuming Williams is gone next year. If it’s indeed Dillard then hopefully he gets stronger while sitting behind Moton. 

Maybe Moton proves himself great at left tackle and swing guy we take can backup the position. 

Who knows really.

[Black&BlueBubba]

32 minutes ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

We also need to stop relying on any future with Daryl in the plans.  If he balls out this year, solid chance he cashes in elsewhere.  If the leg isn't back to 100% (which, the contract may say), he's not a starter here for the next few years anyway. 

Regardless if Moton is LT or RT...another OT is necessary. 

Right.  That was my original position when starting this thread.  This issue revolves around the fact that if we think we need a LT we really have to draft on in the 1st round.  I am hoping we only need a RT and that opens up to add that at multiple rounds. 

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

That is the issue.  I see nothing to suggest that Moton cannot play LT.  What did Clark and Newhouse have over him there?   And they kept him at RT, even when Cam was being beaten to a pulp.  If our coaches (Ron, ultimately) are that dumb, then figuring out what they may do in the draft is impossible.  My point about Ford supports the position that he is a safe pick because he can play 4 positions--since they seem to have no idea what they are doing up front.

Clark looked like a clumsy kid trying to learn a complicated dance... and failing.

[panthers55]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Why is this staff so inept at depth chart decisions? This is nothing new, particularly along the OL.

First off Matso makes the decisions on the line and he is considered one of the best. Plus Norv runs the offense and has been here one year. So why the same old  discussion when the offense is run by Norv not Rivera.

[panthers55]

We are drafting a tackle in the first or second round. We are not counting on Williams. Or maybe the bigger issue is that we aren't going to let injuries derail us like they did last year. So why everyone hopes that Williams come back 100% we aren't putting all our eggs in that basket. 

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

Right.  That was my original position when starting this thread.  This issue revolves around the fact that if we think we need a LT we really have to draft on in the 1st round.  I am hoping we only need a RT and that opens up to add that at multiple rounds. 

Yes we really need a LT...

[Black&BlueBubba]

15 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

Yes we really need a LT...

Yes but is the answer already on the roster? If not then we are not going BPA.  We then have to reach for a LT.  Not the best situation.  

[LinvilleGorge]

45 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

First off Matso makes the decisions on the line and he is considered one of the best. Plus Norv runs the offense and has been here one year. So why the same old  discussion when the offense is run by Norv not Rivera.

First off, I thought you choked to death on Ron's dick a long time ago...

[Shocker]

6 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I have been saying this for months--got into some heated arguments where relatives and next of kin became involved--if anyone can provide a sensible, logical, intelligent answer to this question in 3 parts, I will concede that Moton is in their plans at LT.

Why did Moton not beat out Matt Kalil at LT last year?

Why did Moton not go to LT when Williams and Kalil were injured (instead we hired a street free agent)?

At the end of the season, when we benched Cam and the season was done, why did we not take a long look at Moton at LT? 

As soon as the season ended (around week 15), we should have started looking at the future--it was clear then that Kalil was not returning. Please don't say Clark was better at LT than RT--that is a dumb argument.  RTs in free agency are much easier to find than LTs.  You put your best LT on Cam's blind side.  I  am willing to bet that Matsko knows that.  So I can only speculate that these Sofa GMs are basing their theory on the fact that Moton had a decent game vs. Dallas in relief duty week 1.

Williams (based on my observations) may have a better or equal shot at LT---but I am almost certain that he is not a LT either.  THAT is why we are looking for one.  This is why I think Cody Ford (as Jourdan says) might be the pick.  He is a dominant G with the athleticism to play LT.  Do not be surprised to see Williams at LG and Ford at LT if we do that.  Moton, in my opinion, is a solid RT.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

First off, I thought you choked to death on Ron's dick a long time ago...

If that were true you would have choked on Cam"s dick 7 or 8 years ago. 

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, poorboysrev said:

Right...I’ll never understand some of the depth chart moves this team makes. Or how they’ll talk about someone “flashing” repeatedly but keep playing someone they're outperforming ahead of them. I throw that in with the clock management and in game adjustments bin for things that hold this team back 

That is the truth. How could you understand most of  the team or coaches moves because you aren't at practice every day and don't see 90% of what the coaches do. But like most on here it doesn't stop you from commenting based on the very little you do see 

[Toomers]

5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

And I will add, Why did he not return to LT?  I don't know the answer.  I thought he looked good there.  I am figuring out the coach's decisions, not my preferences.  To figure out the draft (as fun as it is to try), it makes no difference what I think they  should do--when I state the facts from last year, people think I am supporting my opinion about  Moton--nope.  I am guessing what they  coaches might be thinking about personnel.

We could have escaped the Kalil  contract after 2 years, but there was the "I am finally healthy" tease.  Do they start a player because they gave him a bad contract?  Do you risk Cam's career because DG made a boo boo?  I do not buy that. 

 

 

We did get out of Kalils contract after two years. What are you talking about. What escape? 

 Matt Kalil was starting at LT at the beginning of last year because he cost 20M+ to cut and they had to pray he would play average. 

 Please explain how this false statement means anything towards Motons ability to play LT? 

[heel31ok]

50 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

Yes but is the answer already on the roster? If not then we are not going BPA.  We then have to reach for a LT.  Not the best situation.  

Not with questions about Williams health and wether one game is enough to show Moton is a LT...

[poorboysrev]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

That is the truth. How could you understand most of  the team or coaches moves because you aren't at practice every day and don't see 90% of what the coaches do. But like most on here it doesn't stop you from commenting based on the very little you do see 

So you’re saying every in game decision, depth chart, roster decision is completely infallible and how dare I as a mere fan question any decision or choice Ron makes? That’s a very black and white view of things. “You’re either with us or against us”. My bad man...Coach Rivera and staff make the right call...every time...it’s just the stupid players not capitalizing on opportunities or executing. I never said I thought Ron was a horrible coach or we should fire him, or that being a head coach was an easy job. I saw an interview with him where he said he did some self scouting after the season and saw things that he needed to correct. How come he can say that but if I do I have uninformed opinions from watching every game for the past 20+ years? Are you at practice everyday? Don’t get the hostility.

Norv made better in game adjustments this year than Shula ever did, I think it was obvious to everyone that change was an upgrade. The team created an analytics team and hired a coach specifically to help with clock management...and Ron is staying in charge of the defense now. Why’d they make those changes if everything they do is correct and beyond question?