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Our entire draft direction is contingent on Moton.

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I know this has been discussed before.  But with the draft right around the corner I think it’s fitting to have this discussion again. 

Does our front office view Moton as a competent/ elite LT?  

If we do see him at left tackle it opens up this draft completely to selecting the BPA for out multiple needs.  Edge, Safety, DL, CB. 

We have looked at a bunch of RT this draft season. And only Dillard and Little at LT.  

My hope is that Moton can be a competent LT.  Because I don’t like any of the LT’s this year at 16.  If he can play LT then we can definitely go Edge in the 1st. If they are gone, go Cody Ford. He is a hell of a lot safer than Dillard or Little.  If we go LT in first we have to get an Edge.  So getting one of the quality Safeties in the second round may be out of the question.  

What say you?  

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I don’t think that’s true. Also, Hurney will have 6-7 guys that they feel good about and worthy of 16, BPA. That could very well end up being someone not a linemen. 

With that being said— Moton has been really good.

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6 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Don't be shocked if they opt to put Williams on the left. 

Please tell me Ron isn't dumb enough to rely on a guy who has already failed on the left over the guy who seemed able to play really well there, as of the beginning of last season. You're poo-stirring again, aren't you?

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8 minutes ago, Raskle said:

Please tell me Ron isn't dumb enough to rely on a guy who has already failed on the left over the guy who seemed able to play really well there, as of the beginning of last season. You're poo-stirring again, aren't you?

Nope. Word on the street is both Moton and Williams will get plenty of looks on the left. It is possible. 

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24 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

I know this has been discussed before.  But with the draft right around the corner I think it’s fitting to have this discussion again. 

Does our front office view Moton as a competent/ elite LT?  

If we do see him at left tackle it opens up this draft completely to selecting the BPA for out multiple needs.  Edge, Safety, DL, CB. 

We have looked at a bunch of RT this draft season. And only Dillard and Little at LT.  

My hope is that Moton can be a competent LT.  Because I don’t like any of the LT’s this year at 16.  If he can play LT then we can definitely go Edge in the 1st. If they are gone, go Cody Ford. He is a hell of a lot safer than Dillard or Little.  If we go LT in first we have to get an Edge.  So getting one of the quality Safeties in the second round may be out of the question.  

What say you?  

That’s what I’m talking about, I don’t see why everyone’s so quick to doubt this kid. He’s played extremely well everywhere they’ve put him. Much easier to get someone that can compete with Williams on the right side with the option of sliding one of the 2 to left guard. 

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1 minute ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Nope. Word on the street is both Moton and Williams will get plenty of looks on the left. It is possible. 

If it’s a straight up competition I don’t see how Williams would win that. He’s good on the right, but he’s looked bad when they’ve tried sliding him over 

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16 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Nope. Word on the street is both Moton and Williams will get plenty of looks on the left. It is possible. 

LT is a position that is hard to fill in the NFL.  Why the hell would we give it to a guy who is most likely not gonna be on the roster next year.  And if it is a competition there is no way Williams beats out Moton. 

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I have been saying this for months--got into some heated arguments where relatives and next of kin became involved--if anyone can provide a sensible, logical, intelligent answer to this question in 3 parts, I will concede that Moton is in their plans at LT.

Why did Moton not beat out Matt Kalil at LT last year?

Why did Moton not go to LT when Williams and Kalil were injured (instead we hired a street free agent)?

At the end of the season, when we benched Cam and the season was done, why did we not take a long look at Moton at LT? 

As soon as the season ended (around week 15), we should have started looking at the future--it was clear then that Kalil was not returning. Please don't say Clark was better at LT than RT--that is a dumb argument.  RTs in free agency are much easier to find than LTs.  You put your best LT on Cam's blind side.  I  am willing to bet that Matsko knows that.  So I can only speculate that these Sofa GMs are basing their theory on the fact that Moton had a decent game vs. Dallas in relief duty week 1.

Williams (based on my observations) may have a better or equal shot at LT---but I am almost certain that he is not a LT either.  THAT is why we are looking for one.  This is why I think Cody Ford (as Jourdan says) might be the pick.  He is a dominant G with the athleticism to play LT.  Do not be surprised to see Williams at LG and Ford at LT if we do that.  Moton, in my opinion, is a solid RT.

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@MHS831   And. Here we go.  Lol

i will have to agree with you that there is some question with the FO if Moton can be a LT.  The way they have approached the offseason tells me that role is not as settled as I once thought.  

But if that is true I will tell you that I think that spells trouble to our draft.  And that selecting a back up QB should be happening.  Because Cam will be on the shelf early on. 

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16 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I have been saying this for months--got into some heated arguments where relatives and next of kin became involved--if anyone can provide a sensible, logical, intelligent answer to this question in 3 parts, I will concede that Moton is in their plans at LT.

Why did Moton not beat out Matt Kalil at LT last year?

Why did Moton not go to LT when Williams and Kalil were injured (instead we hired a street free agent)?

At the end of the season, when we benched Cam and the season was done, why did we not take a long look at Moton at LT? 

As soon as the season ended (around week 15), we should have started looking at the future--it was clear then that Kalil was not returning. Please don't say Clark was better at LT than RT--that is a dumb argument.  RTs in free agency are much easier to find than LTs.  You put your best LT on Cam's blind side.  I  am willing to bet that Matsko knows that.  So I can only speculate that these Sofa GMs are basing their theory on the fact that Moton had a decent game vs. Dallas in relief duty week 1.

Williams (based on my observations) may have a better or equal shot at LT---but I am almost certain that he is not a LT either.  THAT is why we are looking for one.  This is why I think Cody Ford (as Jourdan says) might be the pick.  He is a dominant G with the athleticism to play LT.  Do not be surprised to see Williams at LG and Ford at LT if we do that.  Moton, in my opinion, is a solid RT.

Why did Amini ever start over Norwell? Why did Remmers ever start over Williams? Why did Van Roten start over Larsen last season? Why were Bell/Chandler ever seen as anything even resembling a solution at OT? 

The only thing that seems certain about our OL decisions is that we're gonna fug them up.

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