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Bill Barnwell speculation: Panthers trade up with Jaguars


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3 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

There’s no mf reason to trade up while giving up a ransom, neither offense nor defense is “one” playmaker away from being elite. I will personally march down to Charlotte Sherman style and boot hurney out 

I honestly don't think we are exceptionally far away from being an elite offense. But I also don't think there are any players we could even trade up for to make that happen(Elite LT, for instance). Defensively, almost certainly not. I don't think we are as bad defensively as we looked last year but with a scheme shift, you wonder if we have the personnel in place to be an elite defense. Not to mention our obvious need to bolster the DL for the long term, shore up a REAL option at FS, potentially upgrade at nickel/CB2 and add a LB to replace TD(or EDGE to replace him, depending on how heavily we utilize the 3-4 looks). 

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Trading down and acquiring picks is the way to go if the player we want isn't there. Most draft picks are a roll of the dice anyway, even the "safe" ones, so I'd be happy with them adding more lotto tickets seeing if we can hit. I mean, the last two year's picks 1-3 were pretty good, so if we can replicate that even a little bit I'd be happy. More picks can't hurt. 

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I honestly don't think we are exceptionally far away from being an elite offense. But I also don't think there are any players we could even trade up for to make that happen(Elite LT, for instance). Defensively, almost certainly not. I don't think we are as bad defensively as we looked last year but with a scheme shift, you wonder if we have the personnel in place to be an elite defense. Not to mention our obvious need to bolster the DL for the long term, shore up a REAL option at FS, potentially upgrade at nickel/CB2 and add a LB to replace TD(or EDGE to replace him, depending on how heavily we utilize the 3-4 looks). 

I mean I agree, but in order for either side to be borderline elite we need guys like Bradberry , kk, Shaq, and a Fs to play pro bowl level. Offense doesn’t need much, a healthy cam and the continuing emergence of D.J., Samuel, and Thomas. But like you said there’s not an offensive talent worth drafting top 5 this year besides qb. 

Keep doing what we did last year and build a complete roster, than when we are a couple key pieces away I can see us trading up 

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I have a hard time thinking of a worse way to manage our draft than this nonsense Barnwell came up with. Maybe you could make an argument for this trade if Bosa or Allen somehow fall to 7 (something like Murray, Bosa, Haskins, Williams, Oliver, and White for the top 6 would make Allen available). Those are the only 2 players I would even entertain the idea for. Not Sweat or Gary or whoever your favorite o-lineman is. And definitely not for Hockenson. I still think we're better off sticking at 16 and grabbing whoever's still among Ferrell, Burns or Gary (or even Sweat if that's possible) and filling other needs like free safety and oline with those picks in rounds 2 and 3.

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9 hours ago, rayzor said:

Click bait title fixed.

I'd take it a step further - it's not even speculation that Barnwell has on what he thinks we will do. He did a what if mock draft if every team were to make a trade in the first round (even calls it wild deals). It's kind of an "if they did trade in the first round", here's what they could consider. Not with any claims to knowledge of the team's plans, etc...but of course, the initial post just took the snippet about the Panthers and everyone ran wild with it without the proper context - it probably belongs in the mock draft thread.

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