Don't believe that this is a weak WR class!

[Sub Zero]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Yes--this draft is great for us at WR--we do not need much.  I wonder if Marty goes big WR to replace Funchess?  If so, Sills from WVU is a bit attractive on day 3, for example. 

I like the idea of adding a WR in later rounds that has a different skillset than the ones already on the roster.. So getting a big WR in either round 4 or 5 who can play special team is ideal for me.. I like Sills but I like 7 other guys who fit that bill better. 

[Sub Zero]

16 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I see both sides---however---Smith's "decline" could be due to other variables--I  am not sure he is washed up yet.  I respect what you are saying--but we are talking about a #4 WR at this point--$5m is a bit pricey for that, imo.  I go back and forth, but that is because I am not close enough to the situation to feel strongly one way or another.  If the decision were mine, I would have cut  him (17 receptions, 190 yards; $5m) and go with a young WR who can return kicks.  I really like the kids from WF and UNC late. 

I see the whole point about a 4th WR making 5 mil thing and I get the frustration.. But Ppl forget to mention that None of the WR on the roster is getting paid alot and it's the situation the rosters in not the player that makes this a anomaly .. When you have your top 3 Wrs being 2 guys still on rookie deals and vet getting the minimum .. You may be stuck with a declining vet making more than his value truly is.. 

Cotchery I think was making more than Funch and  Philly our super bowl year and by the end of the season he was the 4th wr right??

[Cpt slay a ho]

This WR class is underrated, because the d line talent is so stacked is the reason more WR aren’t projected to go top 20, still there’s a good possibility a rd 1 rated guy is there at 47, I’m not passing that up if it’s bpa, offense is where the league is going, and we need to rely less on Olsen and cmc, and like another poster said, a injury to Samuel or Moore and we’re fuged 

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, Sub Zero said:

Back it up than?? Name 1 team who went into a season with 1 experience vet (more than 3 years experience) and the rest of the group young (less than 3 years).. You said teams only need 1.. So tell me who has done that?? And been successful??

I'll give you a example the other way.. 2016 Panthers secondary  how did that workout??

That's not my point or argument (BTW, the 2015 Panthers damned near did it), but, like you said, you don't believe Smith is going anywhere anyway, even though your tone seems it makes like you believe that he should.

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I  was not speaking in generalities concerning Smith.  His contributions do not equate to $300K+ per game.  I differ--I do not see playing an unproductive retread as anything more than blocking a "project" from playing time to develop.  For example, in 2017 Damiere Byrd had 10 catches for 120 yards.  In 2018, Torrey Smith had 17 catches for 190 yards.  I would rather play the young guy at a discount of over $4m and hope he improves instead of trying to squeeze some glory years out of Smith's career.  Interesting dilemma all teams face, but my statement was prefaced with "I wonder if..." which should excuse it from becoming a positional proclamation--if it  came off that way, it was not the intent.

Oh, sorry if you thought that my comment was directed at you. It wasn't. I knee what you meant.

[MHS831]

If you take the $$ out of it, is Smith worth a roster spot?  I do not  see it, but I am optimistic that he can find a niche and perform better.  New teams, New Coordinators, QB with a shoulder injury--hard to develop chemistry, and you all know that the QB/WR chemistry is significantly important.  Cam was learning a new  offense and dealing with  an injury.  Smith got lost.  Philly proved to be a bad fit for Smith-who knows if  these variables played a role.  I guess it is going to cost us $5m  to find out.  I see him playing a bigger role in 2019.  Maybe 500 yards,  35 catches.  MARK MY WORDS!  Or they will cut him after the draft.

[MHS831]

5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Oh, sorry if you thought that my comment was directed at you. It wasn't. I knee what you meant.

Well it  was applicable toward me  and deservedly  so....I am torn on this.

[steven8989]

32 minutes ago, black-panthers said:

Yall gonna be surprise how bad our receivers will be

Yeah I bet u said that in 2015 when we was on our SB run. It depends on how much protection a QB gets more than anything. Look at how much Brady ever gets pressured. Lol it really pains me to see how much people know about football on here.

[Palmetto]

Seems like it always has been a solid WR calss.

Never thought it was weak

[Sub Zero]

1 hour ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

This WR class is underrated, because the d line talent is so stacked is the reason more WR aren’t projected to go top 20, still there’s a good possibility a rd 1 rated guy is there at 47, I’m not passing that up if it’s bpa, offense is where the league is going, and we need to rely less on Olsen and cmc, and like another poster said, a injury to Samuel or Moore and we’re fuged 

Why is it underrated?? Is there a Julio anywhere in here?? It can't be underrated when the highest rated Wr has more holes in his game than a mesh shirt and still might go top 15.. Just because the Dline class is strong doesn't mean the WRs are getting overlooked.. If there were some Julios, some AJ Greens, Some Larry Fizgeralds in this draft they would be 1st round picks easily. Even with all these Dline talent..They would push the Dlinemen further down the draft. This us still a offensive league..

 

A injury to Cmac and we're fug.. Are you wanting a 2nd round RB??

[Sub Zero]

This a mute point now.. No way are we drafting WR early. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

5 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

Why is it underrated?? Is there a Julio anywhere in here?? It can't be underrated when the highest rated Wr has more holes in his game than a mesh shirt and still might go top 15.. Just because the Dline class is strong doesn't mean the WRs are getting overlooked.. If there were some Julios, some AJ Greens, Some Larry Fizgeralds in this draft they would be 1st round picks easily. Even with all these Dline talent..They would push the Dlinemen further down the draft. This us still a offensive league..

Those guys are generational talents you listed, every draft doesn’t have a Julio, aj green, ect. That doesn’t make it a weak class. Everyone’s  board is different some have dk rated high because his combine but that’s not end all be all. Hogan being signed helps us go elsewhere in the draft now but just some tidbits on this class 

[pantherclaw]

I don't understand how anyone can look at what we have at receiver, and believe we're set. Especially with most fans wanting Smith gone, which would without a doubt, make our receiving core worse. 

 

[Sub Zero]

2 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Those guys are generational talents you listed, every draft doesn’t have a Julio, aj green, ect. That doesn’t make it a weak class. Everyone’s  board is different some have dk rated high because his combine but that’s not end all be all. Hogan being signed helps us go elsewhere in the draft now but just some tidbits on this class 

You to have that in your class to be considered good.. You have to have 1 or 2 elite prospects 3 or 4 plug and play guys than a bunch of development guys.. You can't be missing these types of players and consider the class good.. If you're going to make comparison to other classes and drafts like everybody does.. it has to have some of the things those other classes had.