Panthers have spent "considerable time" with Will Grier

[RenoCarolina]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wrong again. I don't care if we draft a quarterback or not. I think it's possible, and I'd be happy if it were Will Grier, but if it's not that's fine too.

 

 Nothing wrong with being wrong once in a while.  You are a huddle resource, would love to see you convert to at least occasionally sharing your 'hot take' opinion instead of shading everything to where it can be called either way.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Panthers8969 said:

Yeah that’s a pretty stupid interpretation of my hyperbole, but I’m not surprised. 

Yes, if we use a high round pick on Luke’s backup I will be pissed too. You know we have actual needs on the roster right? 

Yeah, and per the Panthers own offseason statements, backup quarterback is one of them. And drafting somebody for that role is an option that the Panthers are pretty actively exploring.

Grier is one of those possibilities, but definitely not the only one.

Basically, it doesn't matter if fans don't like it, it doesn't matter if fans think there are greater needs, and it doesn't matter if people think it's an insult to Newton. The Panthers are doing their due diligence on the idea and the possibility that they use a draft pick for a backup quarterback is a very real one.

If they do, fine. If they don't, okay. But if we're judging by the things they're doing this offseason, it sure looks likely.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, RenoCarolina said:

 Nothing wrong with being wrong once in a while.  You are a huddle resource, would love to see you convert to at least occasionally sharing your 'hot take' opinion instead of shading everything to where it can be called either way.

I'll stop out on a limb and take a stab at making a call.

We won't draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd no matter what. If we take a QB in the 3rd, it'll be Grier. If we don't take Grier, we will take some other QB we visitied with in the 4th or 5th. I honestly don't rule out the possibility of Grier being available in the 4th. Mid-round guys are notoriously difficult to call.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, RenoCarolina said:

 Nothing wrong with being wrong once in a while.  You are a huddle resource, would love to see you convert to at least occasionally sharing your 'hot take' opinion instead of shading everything to where it can be called either way.

I don't have hot takes. I don't even have hot cakes but I wouldn't mind a few.

I'm fine with being wrong, but I'm not in the Miss Cleo business. I'd rather just analyze what I see.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll stop out on a limb and take a stand at making a call.

We won't draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd no matter what. If we take a QB in the 3rd, it'll be Grier. If we don't take Grier, we will take some other QB we visitied with in the 4th or 5th.

"Stop out on a limb"? 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

"Stop out on a limb"? 

I hate this phone. Make a typo, it won't fix it. Type the right thing, it'll switch it to something else. I'm constantly having to edit pists because of it.

*See, it happened again. "Pists"??? C'mon autocorrect...

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I hate this phone. Make a typo, it won't fix it. Type the right thing, it'll switch it to something else. I'm constantly having to edit pists because of it.

*See, it happened again. "Pists"??? C'mon autocorrect...

What the hell is a pist? 

Try downloading a different keyboard or using voice to text. I'll grant that comes with its own set of challenges but generally as long as you speak slowly and carefully, it works more often than not.

[Toomers]

2 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

That would be oline if I had to pick, addition by subtraction plus a major addition on top of that. After the first round typically OT's don't play as rookies or play well when they do. Same with defensive line players as well. Those drafted in later rounds, after the first/second round have major question marks that take time to coach up. So in the third, it's not really a wasted pick. If you go second round QB then obviously dline is first round pick, so you're probably not selecting an oline or safety in the second. 

 Still have holes at LG, LT, DE, DT, S, CB. We don’t have a decent DE signed for next year, and our DTs will cost wayyy more than their worth. You are losing a player at one of those by selecting a QB. Not too mention RB2 or a WR. Or LB. 

 If they want insurance for this year, get a QB who has actually played. Not take a chance on a mid-rounder who rarely works out and sure doesn’t do so in their rookie season. After this season, they will either sign Cam or move on. But they will have tons more information to judge the situation on. And a better QB class. 

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 Still have holes at LG, LT, DE, DT, S, CB. We don’t have a decent DE signed for next year, and our DTs will cost wayyy more than their worth. You are losing a player at one of those by selecting a QB. Not too mention RB2 or a WR. Or LB. 

 If they want insurance for this year, get a QB who has actually played. Not take a chance on a mid-rounder who rarely works out and sure doesn’t do so in their rookie season. After this season, they will either sign Cam or move on. But they will have tons more information to judge the situation on. And a better QB class. 

That would have been my choice too but they didn't go that route. That plus the amount of time they've put into evaluating quarterbacks makes me think a QB pick is likely. As to who and what round, unknown.

As far as the holes though, let's be real. We know the Panthers do consider backup QB to be one of their holes, but even if you don't take a quarterback, you're not filling all those spots in this draft. Probably not even half of them. 

[LinvilleGorge]

21 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 Still have holes at LG, LT, DE, DT, S, CB. We don’t have a decent DE signed for next year, and our DTs will cost wayyy more than their worth. You are losing a player at one of those by selecting a QB. Not too mention RB2 or a WR. Or LB. 

 If they want insurance for this year, get a QB who has actually played. Not take a chance on a mid-rounder who rarely works out and sure doesn’t do so in their rookie season. After this season, they will either sign Cam or move on. But they will have tons more information to judge the situation on. And a better QB class. 

Veteran QBs who would provide a clear upgrade cost $$$ and are probably already on a roster elsewhere.

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That would have been my choice too but they didn't go that route. That plus the amount of time they've put into evaluating quarterbacks makes me think a QB pick is likely. As to who and what round, unknown.

As far as the holes though, let's be real. We know the Panthers do consider backup QB to be one of their holes, but even if you don't take a quarterback, you're not filling all those spots in this draft. Probably not even half of them. 

They may pick one. Not predicting anything they might do. Just that I would not take a QB before 5th. 

 Not being able to fill those holes is pretty much my point. The last thing they need is to use a decent pick on a player they never want to play. 

[JARROD]

4 minutes ago, Toomers said:

They may pick one. Not predicting anything they might do. Just that I would not take a QB before 5th. 

 Not being able to fill those holes is pretty much my point. The last thing they need is to use a decent pick on a player they never want to play. 

Wow, we totally agree. Will Grier may end up growing into something special but history says he won’t.

If Cam goes down mid season, then we are going Suck for Luck again with a better prospect next year.

so I would rather see us pick up 5 starters or 3 starters and 2 roll players that turn into starters in the first 4 rounds..... 

even wasting the 5th and 6th round picks is questionable with so many late round receivers and running backs or tight ends that could augment what we have is better than wasting it on a 6th round QB,..

there was only one Tom Brady,...

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Veteran QBs who would provide a clear upgrade cost $$$ and are probably already on a roster elsewhere.

If the other option is using draft capital, I’m cutting Smith and Searcy long ago if extra money is needed. They are signed now. They Weren’t a month ago. 

  Except Foles, all FA options were hardly upgrades on anyone. Neither are most QBs we would draft. The FA list is basically a cautionary tale of wasted picks. 

[Krovvy]

There's really this many people here that actually think a rookie mid round quarterback is likely to be able to come in and win games if Cam can't play? Does anyone here watch the NFL? That doesn't happen often, and when it does it's usually a ticket to mediocrity. This rookie would be playing for the Panthers, just think of how married the offense is to Cam making plays, even in the run game.

I guess some of this fanbase really need a new Derek Anderson. The reality of seeing the backups fall the pieces at the end of last season doesn't give them much ammunition to push the trade, move on from, Cam narrative. God knows they tried after a couple of completed passes, but it fell apart really quick after those quarterbacks couldn't take an NFL hit.