Don't overlook Deebo!

[Palmetto]

Make it happen

[Sub Zero]

3 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Why would you pass on one? It’s a lowkey need, we are banking on Samuel staying healthy and Moore taking the next step, WR is just like cb, we’re one injury away from fielding a piss poor unit on the field 

It's not a need.. That's what you do when you have 2 young high drafted players you develop them and put faith that they will become what you drafted them for.. You don't keep using high picks on 1 position without knowing what you have already.. You can't keep drafting WR high and not giving them a chance to develop.. Sooner or later you have see what you have in them..

Plus this draft is strong in the later rounds for depth WR's.. Which is all we need right now..

[Sub Zero]

11 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Why would you pass on one? It’s a lowkey need, we are banking on Samuel staying healthy and Moore taking the next step, WR is just like cb, we’re one injury away from fielding a piss poor unit on the field 

If DJ and Curtis put up 1000 yards and 6+ tds last year.. Would you feel it's a need to draft a 2nd round WR??

Well is it really their fault they didn't hit those numbers with limited snaps and targets?

DJ had 788 yards on 55 rec. Playing limited snaps and a hurt qb..

Curtis had 500 yards 39rec and 5tds with less snaps than DJ..

We don't need another high drafted WR in the mix.. You want to keep these guys if their good.. Sooner or later you have to pay all these guys at 1 position..

[KDawg004]

If Harmon is there in the 4th (doubtful) I’d consider taking him. Dude can catch. If we made Funchess look like a half decent WR imagine Harmon who can actually catch all the balls Funchess dropped.

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, Sub Zero said:

It's not a need.. That's what you do when you have 2 young high drafted players you develop them and put faith that they will become what you drafted them for.. You don't keep using high picks on 1 position without knowing what you have already.. You can't keep drafting WR high and not giving them a chance to develop.. Sooner or later you have see what you have in them..

Plus this draft is strong in the later rounds for depth WR's.. Which is all we need right now..

We need a young outside receiver because we just lost one. We can't count on Smith to fulfill that need. And why would we want to?

Samuel was drafted for the slot. I'll say it again. Samuel was drafted to play in the slot. With Moore on one side and Funchess gone, there is absolutely a need for another receiver, and not necessarily some big lumbering receiver either.

[Sub Zero]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

We need a young outside receiver because we just lost one. We can't count on Smith to fulfill that need. And why would we want to. 

Samuel was drafted for the slot. I'll say it again. Samuel was drafted to play in the slot. With Moore on one side and Funchess gone, there is absolutely a need for another receiver, and not necessarily some big lumbering receiver either.

You can say whatever about what Samuels was drafted for.. It don't matter .. What was he used as by this new offensive coordinator?? 

Yeah that's right.. On the outside.. Samuels rarely lined up in the slot.. Jarius Wright is more of your slot guy..

Stop pigeon holing players before they develop.. It doesn't work that way..

Just because you like Deebo doesn't mean he is a great fit for this team.. He is similar in body type and  skillsets to WR we already have on the roster.. That means we would have spent 3 top 50 picks 3 drafts in row on similar WR?? How smart Is that?? That is straight from the Matt Millen school of GMing a football team.. And it's very similar to Gettelmen going back to back drafts with big lumbering WR.. 

Serious question... if We draft Deebo and he doesn't put up 1000 yard 6+ td season his 1st year.. Are you going to be screaming we need another WR next year?? When does this WR craze stop??

We don't need another WR to start for us.. We could use a depth WR to be a 4th or 5th competition guy in the Corp and play special teams.. We can get that later in the draft.. 

And I would like to diversify our Corp by having different types of WR's that can do different things.. I think that makes your offense harder to prepare for than having 3 wr with similar skillsets..

[L-TownCat]

Kid looks good, but until Cam can stand in the pocket unmolested for at least 2- 2 1/2 good seconds, we could send Rice, Moss, and Owens out there to lose.

[top dawg]

5 hours ago, Sub Zero said:

You can say whatever about what Samuels was drafted for.. It don't matter .. What was he used as by this new offensive coordinator?? 

Yeah that's right.. On the outside.. Samuels rarely lined up in the slot.. Jarius Wright is more of your slot guy..

Stop pigeon holing players before they develop.. It doesn't work that way..

Just because you like Deebo doesn't mean he is a great fit for this team.. He is similar in body type and  skillsets to WR we already have on the roster.. That means we would have spent 3 top 50 picks 3 drafts in row on similar WR?? How smart Is that?? That is straight from the Matt Millen school of GMing a football team.. And it's very similar to Gettelmen going back to back drafts with big lumbering WR.. 

Serious question... if We draft Deebo and he doesn't put up 1000 yard 6+ td season his 1st year.. Are you going to be screaming we need another WR next year?? When does this WR craze stop??

We don't need another WR to start for us.. We could use a depth WR to be a 4th or 5th competition guy in the Corp and play special teams.. We can get that later in the draft.. 

And I would like to diversify our Corp by having different types of WR's that can do different things.. I think that makes your offense harder to prepare for than having 3 wr with similar skillsets..

And yet, we're looking at Deebo. Moreover, Jeremiah compared him to D.J. Moore (yep, an outside guy). Some of you sound like you're trying to pigeonhole our receivers simply because they're not 6'5 and 225 pounds. The goal is not only to get a complete wide receiver, but field as complete of a starting level wide receiving corps as possible, and, yes, sometimes that takes some investment. And, has it ever occurred to you that Norv is trying to build the corps that he wants? 

And to answer your question, I wouldn't expect Samuel to put up a thousand yards, just be a complementary piece in our WR corps. He would allow us to field three legit, dynamic threats at the position  on any given play. If that's crazy, then call the men in white.

[Cpt slay a ho]

19 hours ago, Sub Zero said:

If DJ and Curtis put up 1000 yards and 6+ tds last year.. Would you feel it's a need to draft a 2nd round WR??

Well is it really their fault they didn't hit those numbers with limited snaps and targets?

DJ had 788 yards on 55 rec. Playing limited snaps and a hurt qb..

Curtis had 500 yards 39rec and 5tds with less snaps than DJ..

We don't need another high drafted WR in the mix.. You want to keep these guys if their good.. Sooner or later you have to pay all these guys at 1 position..

If if’s Were fifth’s we all be lit, but on a serious note, yes I’d still consider it, It’s not a question Samuel and Moore can play but a question to are we able suffice if Moore or Samuel go down for significant time ? Plus I said bpa, there’s no need taking the 6th rated C/G over the 2nd rated WR just because we need a OG. Plus today’s league is all about high powered offenses so drafting a WR would be right on par with that notion. 

I’m simply stating the notion of drafting a WR shouldn’t be dismissed, it should come down to who’s on the board.  

[TheSpecialJuan]

[Sub Zero]

12 hours ago, top dawg said:

And yet, we're looking at Deebo. Moreover, Jeremiah compared him to D.J. Moore (yep, an outside guy). Some of you sound like you're trying to pigeonhole our receivers simply because they're not 6'5 and 225 pounds. The goal is not only to get a complete wide receiver, but field as complete of a starting level wide receiving corps as possible, and, yes, sometimes that takes some investment. And, has it ever occurred to you that Norv is trying to build the corps that he wants? 

And to answer your question, I wouldn't expect Samuel to put up a thousand yards, just be a complementary piece in our WR corps. He would allow us to field three legit, dynamic threats at the position  on any given play. If that's crazy, then call the men in white.

We're looking at alot of players especially alot of big WR?? What's your point??

Resource allocation is a problem with this team it has been for years.  You spend 2 high round picks on 1 position and it isn't enough for some ppl... We only play with 1 football.. You have 3 Wr now who will get targets a RB who will get a major part of the targets 2 TE who will get their targets as well and your still a predominant running team... Another high round WR doesn't make sense.. When all you need is depth at the position right now... And I shouldn't have to explain why having WR with different skillsets is bettering than having a bunch of WR all built the same doing the same job.. example  (KB, and Funch)..

[Sub Zero]

1 hour ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

If if’s Were fifth’s we all be lit, but on a serious note, yes I’d still consider it, It’s not a question Samuel and Moore can play but a question to are we able suffice if Moore or Samuel go down for significant time ? Plus I said bpa, there’s no need taking the 6th rated C/G over the 2nd rated WR just because we need a OG. Plus today’s league is all about high powered offenses so drafting a WR would be right on par with that notion. 

I’m simply stating the notion of drafting a WR shouldn’t be dismissed, it should come down to who’s on the board.  

You could say that about every position.. And reality is the strength of this WR class is in the later rounds.. This is a weak class by most analysts opinions.. The 4th best Olinemen or Dlinemen in a strong draft for both position.. Is probably better than the 2nd best WR in a weak class for that position.... So taking one high when it isn't a astronomical need isn't smart.. 

[top dawg]

36 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

We're looking at alot of players especially alot of big WR?? What's your point??

Resource allocation is a problem with this team it has been for years.  You spend 2 high round picks on 1 position and it isn't enough for some ppl... We only play with 1 football.. You have 3 Wr now who will get targets a RB who will get a major part of the targets 2 TE who will get their targets as well and your still a predominant running team... Another high round WR doesn't make sense.. When all you need is depth at the position right now... And I shouldn't have to explain why having WR with different skillsets is bettering than having a bunch of WR all built the same doing the same job.. example  (KB, and Funch)..

A baller is a baller. Antonio Brown and OBJ should have taught you that. Funch and KB have proven thus far to be anything but. It's not about getting receivers with different skill sets, it's about fielding the best and most complete receivers that you can. 

So, we're looking at "a lot of players." The point is that we wouldn't be looking at Deebo Samuel unless we are interested in him. So, someone apparently believes that he has some value and would fill a need on the team, notwithstanding fans that think he is just some useless clone of what we already have.

[Sub Zero]

31 minutes ago, top dawg said:

A baller is a baller. Antonio Brown and OBJ should have taught you that. Funch and KB have proven thus far to be anything but. It's not about getting receivers with different skill sets, it's about fielding the best and most complete receivers that you can. 

So, we're looking at "a lot of players." The point is that we wouldn't be looking at Deebo Samuel unless we are interested in him. So, someone apparently believes that he has some value and would fill a need on the team, notwithstanding fans that think he is just some useless clone of what we already have.

A baller huh?? That's why he is a 1st round option right??  You see how you contradict your opinion?? If he is all that he should be a 1st round pick.. But he's not he has deficiency just like every WR in this class.. That's why the value at this position is later in the draft..

My problem with your opinion is basically I want guys competing for starting roles with our 1st 2 picks.. Not depth guys.. Deebo isn't different nor do I think he will be better than what we already have.. So I'd rather draft a player later in the draft to fill that role...