Cam will be turning 30 this year.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

22 minutes ago, TheRed said:

With Rivera, I think anything less than a winning season results in him getting his walking papers, injury excuses won't save him this go around. I know some of you have soured on Tepper, but I don't think he's given Ron as much leeway as you think.

On Cam, I just honestly don't see him making it through another coaching regime. This group is all in for a playoff push, or it's all getting torn down. It's a hard truth, but a reality nonetheless.

I have no idea where Tepper's head is at when it comes to retaining Ron and Hurney.   However, if Ron is going to be running the D, Norv has the O and this new "game manager" knows his stuff, the Panthers could clean up a lot of nagging issues that have haunted this team for years.  At that point it comes down to plugging holes and avoiding injuries.  Add a healthy Cam to the mix and Panthers could be a serious threat this season.  At that point, Cam will be back in the driver's seat when it comes to a new contract.

[kungfoodude]

15 hours ago, thebigcat said:

Running backs hit the wall at 30

Please return to the Pats board and lament about the loss of Gronk and overreact to Tom Brady's Twitter trolling.

Thanks.

[kungfoodude]

13 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

On the other hand, if his shoulder shows signs early of not holding up they may decide to let him test free agency and see if he comes back at a bargain.

Given what you see QB's getting in free agency, even mediocre ones, I don't think there will be much in the way of a bargain. Unless he basically misses all of next season with a shoulder injury, I would think you would still see a lot of money thrown his way. Nick Foles did just get a 4 yr/$88 mil contract. 

[kungfoodude]

28 minutes ago, RIAnBOW said:

Nick Foles is very smart, perfectly healthy, and a Super Bowl Champion QB -- he earned every penny of that contract.

FTR, only $50 million of that contract is guaranteed, the $88 million number you cite is not the reality of what the Jag's are on the hook for.

I am not implying that Nick Foles is garbage but I also don't think I would put him at the same level as Cam on the open market. Let's not forget that Nick Foles is also a 7 year journeyman QB who has never started more than 11 games in his 4 different stints with various teams. I am not quite ready to christen him the next coming of Kurt Warner(who was younger than Foles is now at the time he got his break in St. Louis). 

My point is that even a dinged up Cam would likely see a lot of money thrown his way in a free agency scenario, provided he does not fall off a cliff in terms of performance or essentially miss an entire season again due to that shoulder. And, if either of those scenarios does happen, moving on would have to be the clear move for the franchise. I don't think there is a very good chance of us bringing Cam back on a cheap/bargain deal. We are either going to re-sign him to continue to be our franchise QB(at a franchise QB rate), he is going to command a large salary in free agency or we are going to move on to the future at that position due to his decline.

[Snake]

14 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Manning's shoulder didn't decide to go the way of the dinosaur until his mid-late 30s.

Cams shoulder was injured. It is now fixed.

[Snake]

8 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Chances are no one knows for sure how Cam's shoulder is going to hold up over time, not the coaches, not the doctors, not even Cam.

Accepting this as reality, means that the Panthers would be wise to keep their eye out for a legitimate QB that can carry this team if Cam's shoulder gives out again.  

Holding out on a new contract until the current one is coming to an end poses its own risks, especially if Cam has a full recovery.

Bottom line:  Panthers need to identify a legit QB as backup not a place holder.  Someone who can lead the Panthers to victory if required to do so.

Not true. Cams poor season was Cams fault. He didn't want to get cut again to deal with scar tissue and then re injured his shoulder as well. He chose the PT route and it didn't work. From here on out it should be good to go. Especially since he is focusing on shoulder workouts that provide more strength. I personally would like to see him eat some type of protein but once again that's his choice.

[musicman]

21 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Will be interesting to see how soon contract extension talks happen. Next year is his last on contract, so talks should happen this season. I'd be shocked if they let it slide into his last year.

Cam has matured over the years and IMO is really motivated to come back strong this year. His future does depend on it. If he excels, he's gonna get a nice contract but those talks won't happen till late in the year or the off season. They gotta see what he can do. The further the team goes, the better the deal. If he struggles or shows ill effects from the shoulder, next year we are drafting or signing someone to take over. But I don't see that or want that. I strongly believe Cam can be productive and win for us over the next several years, especially surrounded by CMC, Samuel and Moore.

[DeAngelo Beason]

23 hours ago, thebigcat said:

Running backs hit the wall at 30

Haven't heard that one before.  Hilarious.

[DeAngelo Beason]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

Not true. Cams poor season was Cams fault. He didn't want to get cut again to deal with scar tissue and then re injured his shoulder as well. He chose the PT route and it didn't work. From here on out it should be good to go. Especially since he is focusing on shoulder workouts that provide more strength. I personally would like to see him eat some type of protein but once again that's his choice.

Cam's season wasn't poor.  He had a bad few games toward the end when the shoulder started breaking down, but the overall performance was excellent.  Especially considering he only played 14 games - and about 5 of those with a bum shoulder.

[Cookie Lyon]

I'll be turning 30 this year as well. On June 22nd to be exact. When in the hell did 30 become old? The great QB's in the NFL now are playing well  into their late 30's. Since 30 is too old for you, I guess the Panthers should be looking to draft a 5 year old.

[trueblade]

6 hours ago, Snake said:

Cams shoulder was injured. It is now fixed.

We hope it's fixed. I don't see how anyone could be confident he's okay until about Week 6 or 7. 

[Snake]

6 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Cam's season wasn't poor.  He had a bad few games toward the end when the shoulder started breaking down, but the overall performance was excellent.  Especially considering he only played 14 games - and about 5 of those with a bum shoulder.

A bad few game? His arm power was hid well but it was more than a few. He couldn't make all the throws last year.

[Snake]

42 minutes ago, trueblade said:

We hope it's fixed. I don't see how anyone could be confident he's okay until about Week 6 or 7. 

I can be. Scar tissue was the problem and now it has been removed. I understand most people don't know the body very well but cam lost a good bit of motion the last two years. It was directly because he couldn't break up the scar tissue that formed. He will still have a recovery process but not a huge one. There would be more worries if it were degenerate but its not. Barring our Oline allowing him to get blown up he will be 100%.

[L-TownCat]

12 hours ago, Snake said:

Cams shoulder was injured. It is now fixed.

I need that crystal ball you got.

I love Cam.  Will be heartbroken if he’s not healthy or the shoulder just never returns.

We won’t know until Wk8-Wk9.  I hope like hell its fixed but I’m on edge till then.