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Panthers 3-4 defense confirmed.

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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pantherclaw Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Moo Daeng said:

You and others said he never played OLB in a 4-3.

I don't know how you can not just say "Oh, yeah. I was wrong." 

The point was he is a pass rush specialist. Anybody saying he's a replacement for Davis doesn't know football, period. 

As for wording, yes, I said he never played OLB in a 43,  which was a direct reference to those trying to say he's more of a linebacker, which is not the case at all. Y'all want to thump your chest l, go ahead. Doesn't make y'alls original point any more correct. 

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2 hours ago, Panthers8969 said:

I can’t tell if this is a troll post or not. We aren’t running a 3-4 full time. Using both 4-3 and 3-4 bases. Will Irvin play some OLB? Yes, that’s what he’s saying here. No where does he say we are transitioning to a full 3-4 or that he won’t play any DE

Exactly. Igo likes to stir things up.

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1 hour ago, SOJA said:

All this talk about getting guys who fit Ron Rivera's hybrid defensive scheme...

 

what happens when Rivera is fired next season?

I don't think the 3-4 will be used so heavily as posters think. It's just going to be a formation we use every now and then along with some other looks. 4-3 will still be the base.

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3 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

The point was he is a pass rush specialist. Anybody saying he's a replacement for Davis doesn't know football, period. 

As for wording, yes, I said he never played OLB in a 43,  which was a direct reference to those trying to say he's more of a linebacker, which is not the case at all. Y'all want to thump your chest l, go ahead. Doesn't make y'alls original point any more correct. 

You took a statement made by one guy who no one appears to ever take seriously, rebutted with a broad claim that Irvin has never played OLB in a 4-3, then people simply fact-checked you on that claim, and now you’re lumping them together with the original guy’s claim. Their original point was that he has indeed played OLB in a 4-3 defense, which is true. What do you otherwise mean by “y’alls original point” which you claim is false?

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4 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

The point was he is a pass rush specialist. Anybody saying he's a replacement for Davis doesn't know football, period. 

As for wording, yes, I said he never played OLB in a 43,  which was a direct reference to those trying to say he's more of a linebacker, which is not the case at all. Y'all want to thump your chest l, go ahead. Doesn't make y'alls original point any more correct. 

He's a pass rushing specialist that can play OLB and DE. That still means he has played and will continue to play OLB in a 4-3 due to his ability to do more than an ordinary 4-3 DE. Nothing you are saying is taking away the fact that he is a 4-3 OLB or that he has played it. He is both OLB and DE.

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7 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

I wasn't the one that claimed he played a traditional OLB. 

OBVIOUSLY  you missed that. 

I never addressed whether he played a “traditional OLB” role (nor do I care), I addressed the fact that he has indeed played OLB in a 43 before, you OBVIOUSLY missed that.

6 hours ago, panthers55 said:

As I said in my post. I was not comparing the two so not sure why you are. Simply said that Mills was told he wasn't big enough as someone commented about Shaq. I suggested size wasn't the biggest factor. You clarified why you thought Mills was successful. I would agree on Sam. And not sure Shaq has those abilities, he honestly hasn't been that great considering he was a first rounder. Obviously the team seems to think he is worth keeping for 9 million 

While I stated Sam’s pros, I wasn’t trying to compare them in the slightest, hence why I said it was a genuine question about Shaq.

I mean it’s honestly unfair to compare anyone to Sam. That man was a gift.

57 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

You took a statement made by one guy who no one appears to ever take seriously, rebutted with a broad claim that Irvin has never played OLB in a 4-3, then people simply fact-checked you on that claim, and now you’re lumping them together with the original guy’s claim. Their original point was that he has indeed played OLB in a 4-3 defense, which is true. What do you otherwise mean by “y’alls original point” which you claim is false?

This post sums it up pretty well. 

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7 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

You should be. Brett does a great job on this breakdown.  He could be good if he goes to a team that is good a developing LBs. And not so good if he doesn’t. 

 

Not a fan of his size. He looks small. He's fast, but once Olineman gets their hands on him he is done. Im just not sold on him as a fit for us.

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