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Lets talk Nickel


thunderraiden

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We could have the best DB's in the NFL. It doesn't matter if we don't get pressure on the QB. When a QB has all day to throw eventually someone will get open.

I wouldn't be surprised if we double dip at DE or at least a DE and DT in the 1st 2 rounds. We need to get a pass rush before anything else. This is a passing league, DE's and DT's are becoming the most important positions on defense.

 

Look at guys like Donald/Mack/Watt are getting paid compared to other defensive players. Pass rush! We need em!

 

 

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1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Jackson is built for the slot. He is physical and fast and a good tackler. Honestly we need a longer fast corner to compete with the receivers in this division. That is an important need to allow the DLine time to apply pressure. No line can get there if there are several receivers wide open on every play.

Completely agree. I thought we originally brought Cockrell in last year to play out side and have Jackson be nickel? Hopefully we press more and get hands on WRs early to allow the DL to get some pressure. I am guess that last year with all the off coverage, the coaching staff thought they had to do that due to all the injuries. Bradberry is a solid press db, let’s do that more. 

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45 minutes ago, Trill OG said:

Only way I think we go DB is if in this scenario if Greedy Williams falls to us. Otherwise I think we are going DE or DT.

Nothing would surprise me. We all are hung up on DE or OT so much we don’t remember Hurneys big board for BPA usually dictates what goes next. 

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On 3/17/2019 at 1:47 PM, Trill OG said:

Only way I think we go DB is if in this scenario if Greedy Williams falls to us. Otherwise I think we are going DE or DT.

Well Bradberry is in a contract year so I could see it... at the same time we almost HAVE to go DE with the first pick. Unless we end up eyeing someone like Ferguson in the second but the Vernon Butler experiment left a sour taste in my mouth regarding Louisiana Tech D linemen. 

Side Note: I just want a starting DE and Adderley at FS 

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On 3/17/2019 at 11:58 AM, panthers55 said:

Jackson is built for the slot. He is physical and fast and a good tackler. Honestly we need a longer fast corner to compete with the receivers in this division. That is an important need to allow the DLine time to apply pressure. No line can get there if there are several receivers wide open on every play.

I agree with this---Jackson also gambles  a bit more than I  prefer.  If his teammate Greedy Williams is there, that could  make our secondary beyond scary--if we can add a FS.  I have also wondered if Gaulden is not slated for certain sets as a nickel

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On 3/17/2019 at 1:47 PM, The Lobo said:

Completely agree. I thought we originally brought Cockrell in last year to play out side and have Jackson be nickel? Hopefully we press more and get hands on WRs early to allow the DL to get some pressure. I am guess that last year with all the off coverage, the coaching staff thought they had to do that due to all the injuries. Bradberry is a solid press db, let’s do that more. 

There is a reason Fewell was brought in and our secondary coach fired. The scheme was poor, communication was lousy and our corners got exposed on simple double moves. It was embarrassing.

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3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

There is a reason Fewell was brought in and our secondary coach fired. The scheme was poor, communication was lousy and our corners got exposed on simple double moves. It was embarrassing.

Oh yeh,... there were multiple games we would have won with a better secondary the last few years. Many actually.

yes it’s the pass rush too but there’s only so much that can be done when quarterbacks can get the ball out in under 2 seconds and burn us bad— worst when intermediate routes kill us.

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2 hours ago, SOJA said:

I'm starting to wonder if our coaching staff would give up on Gaulden as a FS prospect and try him at NB considering some thought that was the position he best projected to in the NFL

I'm all for playing him wherever he fits best. Just because we drafted him as a FS doesn't necessarily mean that was the right evaluation. We already have a 3rd round pick invested in him, give him every opportunity to prove that it was a good investment and if that means a move to nickelback, fine.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm all for playing him wherever he fits best. Just because we drafted him as a FS doesn't necessarily mean that was the right evaluation. We already have a 3rd round pick invested in him, give him every opportunity to prove that it was a good investment and if that means a move to nickelback, fine.

totally agree

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