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1 hour ago, Jackofalltrades said:

I have plenty of support, thousands and thousands of people coming forth with their stories of healing. It also coincides perfectly with the science, especially if you look at mechanism rather than weak correlation. Not sure what makes either of these guys quacks though, but it’s not lost on my that you make a half baked attack completely devoid of substance. 

No it doesnt.  Its pseudo science.

And you think coca cola is paying for studies that are coming out that a plant focused no processed foods low meat diet is healthiest?

 

LMFAO.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/science-compared-every-diet-and-the-winner-is-real-food/284595/

Katz and Yale colleague Stephanie Meller published their findings in the current issue of the journal in a paper titled, "Can We Say What Diet Is Best for Health?" In it, they compare the major diets of the day: Low carb, low fat, low glycemic, Mediterranean, mixed/balanced (DASH), Paleolithic, vegan, and elements of other diets. Despite the pervasiveness of these diets in culture and media, Katz and Meller write, "There have been no rigorous, long-term studies comparing contenders for best diet laurels using methodology that precludes bias and confounding. For many reasons, such studies are unlikely." They conclude that no diet is clearly best, but there are common elements across eating patterns that are proven to be beneficial to health. "A diet of minimally processed foods close to nature, predominantly plants, is decisively associated with health promotion and disease prevention."

Finally, in a notable blow to some interpretations of the Paleo diet, Katz and Meller wrote, "if Paleolithic eating is loosely interpreted to mean a diet based mostly on meat, no meaningful interpretation of health effects is possible." They note that the composition of most meat in today's food supply is not similar to that of mammoth meat, and that most plants available during the Stone Age are today extinct. (Though it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Paleo extremists are crowd-funding a Jurassic Park style experiment to bring them back.)

 

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1 hour ago, Fryfan said:

No it doesnt.  Its pseudo science.

And you think coca cola is paying for studies that are coming out that a plant focused no processed foods low meat diet is healthiest?

 

LMFAO.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/science-compared-every-diet-and-the-winner-is-real-food/284595/

Katz and Yale colleague Stephanie Meller published their findings in the current issue of the journal in a paper titled, "Can We Say What Diet Is Best for Health?" In it, they compare the major diets of the day: Low carb, low fat, low glycemic, Mediterranean, mixed/balanced (DASH), Paleolithic, vegan, and elements of other diets. Despite the pervasiveness of these diets in culture and media, Katz and Meller write, "There have been no rigorous, long-term studies comparing contenders for best diet laurels using methodology that precludes bias and confounding. For many reasons, such studies are unlikely." They conclude that no diet is clearly best, but there are common elements across eating patterns that are proven to be beneficial to health. "A diet of minimally processed foods close to nature, predominantly plants, is decisively associated with health promotion and disease prevention."

Finally, in a notable blow to some interpretations of the Paleo diet, Katz and Meller wrote, "if Paleolithic eating is loosely interpreted to mean a diet based mostly on meat, no meaningful interpretation of health effects is possible." They note that the composition of most meat in today's food supply is not similar to that of mammoth meat, and that most plants available during the Stone Age are today extinct. (Though it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Paleo extremists are crowd-funding a Jurassic Park style experiment to bring them back.)

To your point and the point of the article- carnivore is a real good diet. It’s devoid of anything processed. I eat steak, fish, eggs and some dairy. It’s highly anti-inflammatory and promotes healing. The fact remains that there’s nothing in plants “needed” that I can’t get from a carnivorous diet AND I get to skip out on all the junk that accompanies plants like sugar, pesticides, fiber, etc. 

Here's a good resource you’ll ignore, but ignorance is a choice  

https://justmeat.co/

 

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5 hours ago, Jackofalltrades said:

To your point and the point of the article- carnivore is a real good diet. It’s devoid of anything processed. I eat steak, fish, eggs and some dairy. It’s highly anti-inflammatory and promotes healing. The fact remains that there’s nothing in plants “needed” that I can’t get from a carnivorous diet AND I get to skip out on all the junk that accompanies plants like sugar, pesticides, fiber, etc. 

Here's a good resource you’ll ignore, but ignorance is a choice  

https://justmeat.co/

 

The article specifically says the best benefits come from a predominantly planet based diet and there is no health benefit interpretation of a mainly meat diet. 

 

Yes cut out processed foods is good.  Going carnivore gets that benefit.   Cutting out processed foods AND going mainly plant based is the best possible diet.  

 

Yes i I am going to ignore justmeat.co.   I provide what was a extensive research to all sorts of diets out there.   Justmeat.co ignores actual data and is useless. 

 

Justmeat does have a link to “can humans digest meat” by Wolverine.    I am so ignorant ignoring cherry picked data and quality research by folks like wolverine.  

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 ….keto and paleo advocate for severely restricting or limiting carbohydrates. But you might want to think twice before taking up that low-carb diet. A new study being presented at the American College of Cardiology’s 68th Annual Scientific Session suggests that low-carb diets such as these could raise your risk of a common heart rhythm disorder called atrial fibrillation (AFib) — a condition that could be really dangerous.

To analyze the risk of eating low-carb, researchers looked at data corresponding to approximately 14,000 people from a study overseen by the National Institutes of Health from 1985 to 2016. A low-carb diet was defined as a diet in which less than 44.8 percent of daily calories come from carbs. For perspective, the keto diet entails restricting carbohydrates to less than 10 percent of total calories. A high-carb diet entailed eating more than 52.4 percent of calories from carbs.

After an average of 22 years of follow-up, they found that people who followed a low-carb diet were the most likely of any group to receive an AFib diagnosis. Low-carb dieters were 18 percent more likely than those who followed a moderate carbohydrate diet and 16 percent more likely than those who followed a high-carb diet to get AFib. According to a release from the American College of Cardiology, these results suggest that these diets should be treated with more caution than people tend to think. https://www.thedailymeal.com/healthy-eating/low-carb-diets-risk-heart-rhythm-disorder-study/030819

 

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If anyone needs information about health and fitness. Check  out - https://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

Any question you have I bet he covers it here and has scientific proof to back it up.

No money is needed, no BS scams, just GREAT KNOWLEDGE.

A few are hitting what Mark believes in (including the vegans) 

See for yourself. Endless material and free. 

 

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7 hours ago, Paa Langfart said:

Lol!!! I don’t even need to look at this to know it’s epidemiological bull. Sure, Cardiologists Nasir Ali (former AHA Fellow) and Aseem Malhotra (leading cardiologist in UK) are going to recommend a diet that CAUSES (something that can not be established epidemiologically) A-Fib. Give me a freaking break. Next someone will bring up the failed nonsense that’s known as the Lipid-Heart hypothesis because association is easier to understand than actual mechanisms. 

I’d love to see your interpretation of how a carb restricted diet CAUSES A-Fib. 

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11 hours ago, Basbear said:

If anyone needs information about health and fitness. Check  out - https://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

Any question you have I bet he covers it here and has scientific proof to back it up.

No money is needed, no BS scams, just GREAT KNOWLEDGE.

A few are hitting what Mark believes in (including the vegans) 

See for yourself. Endless material and free. 

 

Gave it a quick breeze. Again I will reference Japan and the Ryukyus. This guy says sweet potato’s and yams occasionally, which shows me he hasn’t fully researched everything as the staple food of the Ryukyu people is Purple Yams. It’s been scientifically proven that has a large part in the fact they are in the top three centennials on the planet.  

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On 3/20/2019 at 3:01 PM, Fryfan said:

Ancestor wise it looks like a lot of human movement was costal based - mollusks and other sea critters are super high in protein.  Its most likey our ancestors ate a planet heavy diet subsidized with all sorts of sea critters and grubs and such for additional protein.  No "carnivore" diet is anywhere close to how our bodies evolved to eat.

 

 

this is very true. paleo peoples hunted and gathered, but it was about 90% gathering. archaeologists call the model "primary forest efficiency" to describe the primacy of vegetable and fruit gathering en route to usually unsuccessful forages. if you knocked down a mastodon, yay, meat for days! but literally just days. can't eat the whole mastodon, and apex predators you can't kill show up too, and also taking down a mastodon with a dumb spear or an atlatl usually costs a few lives.

"paleo" is an effective supercool marketing term and has no bearing on the dietary reality of paleolithic people.

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On 3/21/2019 at 8:20 AM, Jackofalltrades said:

There’s zero need for carbs or plants of any kind, I’ll stick to my meat, eggs and dairy. I feel the people I follow do know what they’re talking about. 

facts don't care about your feelings

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9 hours ago, Jackofalltrades said:

Lol!!! I don’t even need to look at this to know it’s epidemiological bull. Sure, Cardiologists Nasir Ali (former AHA Fellow) and Aseem Malhotra (leading cardiologist in UK) are going to recommend a diet that CAUSES (something that can not be established epidemiologically) A-Fib. Give me a freaking break. Next someone will bring up the failed nonsense that’s known as the Lipid-Heart hypothesis because association is easier to understand than actual mechanisms. 

I’d love to see your interpretation of how a carb restricted diet CAUSES A-Fib. 

You think its a good idea to give credence to some guys on you tube rather than a study conducted by the NIH over a 30 year period.

LMAO !

 

GIVE ME A fuging BREAK !  

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