Cam is Vegan now and other off season news.

[Moo Daeng]

Meh.....nevermind

 

[ECUPantherFan]

On 3/15/2019 at 1:00 PM, Tbe said:

Yes, but a plant based diet is still the healthiest way to live. The science is irrefutable. Of course, vegan doesn’t mean plant based.

The science is irrefutable... until it is.

#SettledScience

[Harbingers]

12 hours ago, SOJA said:

agreed with everything you've said up till this. This is not true. First off your vegetables are already washed from the grocery store and second no doctor in their right mind is going to recommend not taking a b12 supplement for someone who is vegan. It's fine just take the vitamin and don't get neuropathy

One word. Salmonella. 

Farmers will clean their vegetables even if you get them straight from the farm/farmers market. So unless someone is picking them out the ground themselves. 

[Tbe]

2 hours ago, ECUPantherFan said:

The science is irrefutable... until it is.

#SettledScience

There have been thousands of studies done around the world over the past 100 years. Studies with hundreds of thousands of participants each. A former US surgeon general did a book about this a few years back. Plant based with minimal meat is the healthiest diet. 

The problem is the health and fitness/diet industry is filled with pseudoscience. It’s at the point that good people believe the wrong things because accurate info is rarely talked about and veggies + little meat doesn’t make money.

[Jackofalltrades]

25 minutes ago, Tbe said:

There have been thousands of studies done around the world over the past 100 years. Studies with hundreds of thousands of participants each. A former US surgeon general did a book about this a few years back. Plant based with minimal meat is the healthiest diet. 

The problem is the health and fitness/diet industry is filled with pseudoscience. It’s at the point that good people believe the wrong things because accurate info is rarely talked about and veggies + little meat doesn’t make money.

Your second paragraph expertly explains your first. There’s a shitload of money to be made, just look at who funds the studies you’re referring to. The carnivore movement is growing very rapidly and for good reason. I love NOT eating glyphosate, oxalates, lectins, fiber, fructose and myriad forms of low bioavailable vitamins and minerals. I eat locally sourced, grass fed beef and local, pasture raised chicken eggs for 95% of my diet, I’ve never felt better and there’s zero need to supplement with anything. 

[Tbe]

18 minutes ago, Jackofalltrades said:

Your second paragraph expertly explains your first. There’s a shitload of money to be made, just look at who funds the studies you’re referring to. The carnivore movement is growing very rapidly and for good reason. I love NOT eating glyphosate, oxalates, lectins, fiber, fructose and myriad forms of low bioavailable vitamins and minerals. I eat locally sourced, grass fed beef and local, pasture raised chicken eggs for 95% of my diet, I’ve never felt better and there’s zero need to supplement with anything. 

The studies in the surgeon general’s book (I need to find it again), were not food industry funded. Many were done long before the madern food industry was a thing.

 

[Jackofalltrades]

9 minutes ago, Tbe said:

The studies in the surgeon general’s book (I need to find it again), were not food industry funded. Many were done long before the madern food industry was a thing.

 

I like this one that just I came across-

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183733/

[CRA]

I don't buy him being a vegan.  Not w/ his wardrobe...

 

[PanthersBigD]

On 3/15/2019 at 4:26 PM, Pi = 3.1SHutYoMouth! said:

Just ponder to yourself, how did Europeans and native Americans survive in temperate climates or attics If they did not eat meat? Especially during the winter time? Did they have stored kale  and broccoli that would last the winter?

Ever heard of sauerkraut or kimchi?  Koreans have been eating kimchi for 2,000 years. Most cultures had a way to ferment and store their vegetables for the winter months. 

[PanthersBigD]

On 3/17/2019 at 12:59 PM, Chaos said:

I'm going Carnivore for about 2 weeks now and already noticing positive changes.  Drink water and get natural fats plus protein, no carbs no sugar.  Win.  Eat like our ancestors did!

Our ancestors died at like 35 years old...

[Fryfan]

On 3/17/2019 at 12:59 PM, Chaos said:

I'm going Carnivore for about 2 weeks now and already noticing positive changes.  Drink water and get natural fats plus protein, no carbs no sugar.  Win.  Eat like our ancestors did!

If you drank soda/juice, ate bread and sweets cutting them is going to make positive changes no matter what.  

 

 

[MountaineerChemist10]

I've tried Vegan for a month once upon my wife's request. It ain't that bad.

[Fryfan]

Ancestor wise it looks like a lot of human movement was costal based - mollusks and other sea critters are super high in protein.  Its most likey our ancestors ate a planet heavy diet subsidized with all sorts of sea critters and grubs and such for additional protein.  No "carnivore" diet is anywhere close to how our bodies evolved to eat.

 

 

[Harbingers]

1 hour ago, Fryfan said:

Ancestor wise it looks like a lot of human movement was costal based - mollusks and other sea critters are super high in protein.  Its most likey our ancestors ate a planet heavy diet subsidized with all sorts of sea critters and grubs and such for additional protein.  No "carnivore" diet is anywhere close to how our bodies evolved to eat.

 

 

Facepalm. 

Our ancestors were predators and predominantly carnivores for how many 10s of thousands of years? Before we figured out agriculture?

Why did we go on regular hunts?