wtf, man?

[grimesgoat]

38 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

"Low cap" doesn't necessarily equal "high talent". More frequently it just means "low cap". It's only a good thing if you've spent wisely.

And I'd say that's an overly generous analysis of our roster, especially on the OL and the defense.

I believe Trai Turner has already been to multiple pro bowls and Moton is a guy I could see making a few as well.  Point is, no one gets all 5 of its offensive linemen invited to the pro bowl.  The best teams may get a couple.  We've had Kalil/Turner and now possibly Turner/Moton, which puts us in that group.  If we draft OL in the first, we may be looking at another potential pro-bowl type player.

Regarding the defense, I believe Addison, Short, Poe, Kuechley, Shaq, Bradberry, Jackson, and Reid are all high potential, better-than-average players.  I'm not a Poe hater like many others.  I think the system was not ideal for Poe last year and he will show out better this year with more 3-4 looks. If I'm wrong, he will be gone next year when the dead money hit makes more sense.   I'm also not one to assume Gaulden is a bust just because he did not come in last year and immediately start - I think he can be a solid contributor.  Now we definitely need someone else that can get to the quarterback, whether that is a DE or OLB, and another solid corner.  We're not going to solve all of our problems in one offseason - but grab OL/DL in the first and second, A G/C and a FS/CB with our thirds, and we should be able to battle with most teams.

Having said all that, if we don't bump Kalil this week, I'll be as baffled as everyone else.

[grimesgoat]

53 minutes ago, Bronn said:

The reason Cam can't stay healthy is because we have done literally nothing to try and protect him while he's been here other than overpay bums that don't protect him.

 

I disagree here.  Cam has been incredibly resilient.  I think he's only missed a handful of games in 8 years.  His arm just gave out.  I'm not sure a zero tolerance policy on sacks is fair.

Cam's sack % (Sacks per pass attempt) was well below the league average (i.e. good) and sandwiched around guys like Keenum, Goff, Rivers, and Ryan.  We also led the league in rushing yards per attempt - which I think reflects well on a team's OL.  We need to draft someone for the OL in the first or second for sure, and we need to move on from the Kalil experiment, but we're not in that bad shape. 

Larsen and Van Roten are ok, Moton and Turner are above average, and a high draft pick could really solidify things and allow Cam to be effective assuming his arm is ok.

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

The Panthers are waiting (I hope) to see how the market shakes out.

Sounds really, really familiar.

[heel31ok]

Cam is the only issue...everything else is fine...

[Mr. Scot]

The Paradis signing may allay some of these feelings, but it's a wave you might have to ride for a while. Minus other cap clearing moves, this might be the only starter level free agent we bring in.

We'll see.

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

2 hours ago, grimesgoat said:

I disagree here.  Cam has been incredibly resilient.  I think he's only missed a handful of games in 8 years.  His arm just gave out.  I'm not sure a zero tolerance policy on sacks is fair.

Cam's sack % (Sacks per pass attempt) was well below the league average (i.e. good) and sandwiched around guys like Keenum, Goff, Rivers, and Ryan.  We also led the league in rushing yards per attempt - which I think reflects well on a team's OL.  We need to draft someone for the OL in the first or second for sure, and we need to move on from the Kalil experiment, but we're not in that bad shape. 

Larsen and Van Roten are ok, Moton and Turner are above average, and a high draft pick could really solidify things and allow Cam to be effective assuming his arm is ok.

The reason Cam hasn't been getting anywhere is because of the protection he not getting. Yes we need an OL to help keep him from getting massacred. This is factual comment whether you believe it or not.

[Moo Daeng]

We signed a starting center the day before free agency actually starts dude.

[davos]

The remaining Kalil is taking up more cap space than our remaining cap space.  

Screw the FA at this point.  We got a decent signing in this center so let's just hope we nail some draft picks on the lines.