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I don’t buy all this 3-4 talk.


Eazy-E

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2 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

Last time I remember the Panthers using a decent amount of 3-4 looks was 2011 and 2012 when we signed Antwan Applewhite and used him as a stand up pass rusher and those defenses were pretty bad.

When Greg hardy blew up in 2013 we ran 4-3 almost exclusively and our defense improved tremendously along with our win loss record. Crazy what a good pass rusher can do.

There’s your answer bolded/underlined...our success wasn’t due to running a 4-3 defense, which we have ran every year since. We really need to finally draft a DE who can get after the quarterback.

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1 hour ago, ncfan said:

Some people just are convinced they can cram the square peg though the round hole.

 

And I think Rivera is that with this defense.  We hardly have anyone who fits that scheme yet Rivera will run it anyway.  Kind of like watching a Giants team try and run Read option with Eli Manning.

Do you know that Rivera ran elite defenses, both 4-3 and 3-4?

It sounds to me you're just bitching to bitch, and don't actually understand anything you're actually saying. 

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9 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Do you know that Rivera ran elite defenses, both 4-3 and 3-4?

It sounds to me you're just bitching to bitch, and don't actually understand anything you're actually saying. 

I do 

He ran elite 3-4 defenses in SD when he had players to fit the scheme 

 

You think Shula could run a successful read option offense in NY with Eli? Just because a elite read option offense with Cam in 2015?

 

You cant just go and take any 4-3 DEs and DTs and plug them into a 3-4. Heck look at the Giants who just Shipped off Vernon.  A Good 4-3 DE who they gave big money to but wasnt good and struggled in the 3-4.  Ron Rivera's Elite 3-4 defenses had Shawne Merriman on the edge (Not Addison and Obada)

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1 hour ago, ncfan said:

 

You cant just go and take any 4-3 DEs and DTs and plug them into a 3-4. Heck look at the Giants who just Shipped off Vernon.  A Good 4-3 DE who they gave big money to but wasnt good and struggled in the 3-4.  Ron Rivera's Elite 3-4 defenses had Shawne Merriman on the edge (Not Addison and Obada)

This is the only part worth addressing.

You're not telling me anything I haven't known for decades. Pretty sure Ron has forgotten more about good defenses then you, and even I, know.

So why don't you cut him some slack and act like he knows what he's doing. He isn't just wasting time, like you are here today. 

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