Panthers pick up option on Torrey Smith

[Khyber53]

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

I stopped reading at “good hands”.

 

Crying shame you did, you might have learned something. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

[fortyrod]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

I stopped reading at “good hands”.

 

That's actually not bad company to be in. I'm not saying this applies to Smith, but I don't trust single-factor stats like this. At the least, it needs to incorporate the elusive "how catchable were the throws" metric. QBs are going to take more chances with a better WR and throw them less-catchable balls. That includes how far down the field the receiver was. So, if the WR is a long-ball specialist then they will automatically have a higher drop rate since they get the high-risk, high-reward throws. With that said, there are clearly some folks on this list (lookin at you Devin) who really did seem to have the dropsies. I'd be curious if anyone has done this analysis. 

[heel31ok]

catching enough to make the D be concerned about him is what he was brought in for...he wasn't brought in to be a possession rec LOL...

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Crying shame you did, you might have learned something. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Unless you’re talking about something besides football, you couldn’t teach me anything. 

  Ignorance is saying a WR with the WORST hands in th NFL(as I showed) as an example of GOOD hands. You can keep all that ignorance to yourself.

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, fortyrod said:

That's actually not bad company to be in. I'm not saying this applies to Smith, but I don't trust single-factor stats like this. At the least, it needs to incorporate the elusive "how catchable were the throws" metric. QBs are going to take more chances with a better WR and throw them less-catchable balls. That includes how far down the field the receiver was. So, if the WR is a long-ball specialist then they will automatically have a higher drop rate since they get the high-risk, high-reward throws. With that said, there are clearly some folks on this list (lookin at you Devin) who really did seem to have the dropsies. I'd be curious if anyone has done this analysis. 

I welcome you to find any drop metric that doesn’t have Torrey Smith at(or near) the worst in the NFL. 

[heel31ok]

Just now, Toomers said:

I welcome you to find any drop metric that doesn’t have Torrey Smith at(or near) the worst in the NFL. 

irrelevant to what he was brought in to do...no one expects him to be  Biletnikoff...the team must be confident in Cam's rehab and the ability to throw the ball downfield, if that changes Smith's status can change too... we have options here

[steven8989]

22 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

catching enough to make the D be concerned about him is what he was brought in for...he wasn't brought in to be a possession rec LOL...

Yeah that's a great reason to pay someone 5 mil. Thanks Tepper your doing such a great job!

[Toomers]

11 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

irrelevant to what he was brought in to do...no one expects him to be  Biletnikoff...the team must be confident in Cam's rehab and the ability to throw the ball downfield, if that changes Smith's status can change too... we have options here

And none of those options should include paying Smith 5M this year. I don’t care if Cam got a great arm. There are many WRs that can do what he does for 1-2M. 

[yasuhara2241]

Too early to feel anyway about this "move". The $5m is still not guaranteed. If we need the money then we cut him. Then we would only really be spending $10m for Antonio Brown next year....(runs and hides to see responses)

[heel31ok]

6 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

Yeah that's a great reason to pay someone 5 mil. Thanks Tepper your doing such a great job!

yes it is a great reason ...

[Carl Spackler]

You can tell there's nothing going on right now bc there's 14 pages devoted to us picking up the option on Torrey Smith

[heel31ok]

6 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And none of those options should include paying Smith 5M this year. I don’t care if Cam got a great arm. There are many WRs that can do what he does for 1-2M. 

a drop in the bucket if he opens up the passing game by stretching the field... well worth it...

[Krovvy]

2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

$5m is WR 44 in the NFL. People seem to think it’s cheap because it isn’t $10m+ but salaries go way down after the stars. We can’t pay the veteran influence as if he’s an above average WR2 , especially when we aren’t close to being a top passing team.

Also, I’m worried that we are “counting” it in our cap thoughts and taking ourselves out of the running in some deals. Sure we can cut him in training camp, but at that point no one is available to spend it on.

If we are willing to pull the trigger to release him during FA and thinking that we’ve got an additional $5m available then great. I just don’t trust our not keeping more expensive veterans history (like Gano). We’ve wasted so much cap the past two years and unfortunately it doesn’t look to be stopping.

It's the 44th highest salary prior to free agency. What it will be after free agency is more important, though if I'm not mistaken Torrey can still be cut anytime before playing a game, and the Panthers will save money.

[heel31ok]

12 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

You can tell there's nothing going on right now bc there's 14 pages devoted to us picking up the option on Torrey Smith

thats something