Report: Contract talks between Panthers, Daryl Williams stall

[d-dave]

20 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There are a LOT of Panthers fans in support of paying this guy an additional $7M this season instead of making him a post-June 1st cut and clearing up $7.25M in cap space. A large chunk of this fanbase has seemingly moved past the point of numbness to watching the Panthers make baffling roster moves and have moved into full on Stockholm Syndrome territory in defending them.

In fairness, who do we pick up to play LT for under $7.25M that is an upgrade?

Is it Moton (insert the answer is already on the roster) to slide to LT?  Do we know if he can be a starting LT?  He was a great RT last year as a full time starter.  Do you pay Williams (who was one of the most "helped" RTs two years ago) $11 million and pray Moton is the answer at LT?

To me, this becomes a career definer for Hurney.  If he makes the wrong choice, you know he's going to get fired.  You HAVE to protect Cam.  I don't have time to analyze everyone's snaps and stats.  I can't tell you if Moton can take on the best edge rushers in the league and have more success than Kalil did.  I'm not trying to change your mind about Kalil.

But are there any other options for the cost savings we'd have on Matt?

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Would rather have the money to pay Weddle. He can walk. We got by without him last year.

Did we though? We were 7-9 in large part of because Cam's shoulder got jacked up again in large part due to poor protection.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, d-dave said:

In fairness, who do we pick up to play LT for under $7.25M that is an upgrade?

Is it Moton (insert the answer is already on the roster) to slide to LT?  Do we know if he can be a starting LT?  He was a great RT last year as a full time starter.  Do you pay Williams (who was one of the most "helped" RTs two years ago) $11 million and pray Moton is the answer at LT?

To me, this becomes a career definer for Hurney.  If he makes the wrong choice, you know he's going to get fired.  You HAVE to protect Cam.  I don't have time to analyze everyone's snaps and stats.  I can't tell you if Moton can take on the best edge rushers in the league and have more success than Kalil did.  I'm not trying to change your mind about Kalil.

But are there any other options for the cost savings we'd have on Matt?

All of this would be relevant if A) Kalil was actually a good LT and B) if Kalil wasn't really injury prone. Unfortunately, neither A nor B is true.

[Icege]

Say hello to Kalil/Moton as your bookends for 2019, unless the team finds a day 1 LT in the draft.

[poorboysrev]

Good...if we’re going to spend that kind of money on a player I’d rather it be Dee Ford or another pass rusher. Matsko has shown he can develop players and coach the oline up. 

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, d-dave said:

In fairness, who do we pick up to play LT for under $7.25M that is an upgrade?

Is it Moton (insert the answer is already on the roster) to slide to LT?  Do we know if he can be a starting LT?  He was a great RT last year as a full time starter.  Do you pay Williams (who was one of the most "helped" RTs two years ago) $11 million and pray Moton is the answer at LT?

To me, this becomes a career definer for Hurney.  If he makes the wrong choice, you know he's going to get fired.  You HAVE to protect Cam.  I don't have time to analyze everyone's snaps and stats.  I can't tell you if Moton can take on the best edge rushers in the league and have more success than Kalil did.  I'm not trying to change your mind about Kalil.

But are there any other options for the cost savings we'd have on Matt?

Everyone is an option. We replaced his level of play for 800k last year. With a guy who was watching games from his couch week 1. Last thing I’m worried about is someone playing worse than Kalil. 

[SuperBowlBound]

Williams is going to get paid, someone will pay him despite the medical concerns. Cleveland gave former bust 2nd overall pick Greg Robinson $7 million, could be as high as $9 million and a below average Donovan Smith got PAID by Tampa. This doesn’t surprise me. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

he gone 

[Camp Fodder]

42 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Per LaCanfora:

The Bills and Giants will be in pursuit of Panthers tackle Daryl Williams, I'm told, and his price has soared above where the Panthers are likely able to match.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-nfl-free-agency-safeties-no-longer-forgotten-the-rise-of-the-slot-receiver-and-more-insider-notes/

Of course they are

[raz]

well crap.   yeah, we'll be fine with no line.  forget him.  i can't believe he wants money. by gawd i'd play for free.

[Bronn]

he can gtfo to a team that will suck

 

bye felicia

[Shocker]

3 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

Of course they are

LOL...Bills will sign all our FAs, naturally.

 

[Bronn]

As a result, I expect we'll announce the re-signing of Clark and/or Newhouse soon.
 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Joseph Person of TheAthletic.com reports that the talks have stalled and Williams is expected to hit the open market when the new league year opens on March 13. He’ll be able to start hearing from teams other than the Panthers on March 11.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/06/report-contract-talks-between-panthers-daryl-williams-stall/

If the Bills and Giants (the two franchises with the best knowledge of DW outside of the Panthers) pursue DW, that most certainly shoots all to hell this narrative of DW being overrated.