Chiefs listening to trade offers for Dee Ford?

[ImaginaryKev]

10 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

His first two years in the league, he played behind two veteran starters at his position (Justin Houston and Tamba Hali).  After 2 games in 2016, KC finally cut bait with Hali and Ford became a full-time starter, getting 10 sacks in 14 games started.

In 2017 he was out 10 full games with injury and parts of others so, no, he didn't have a great 2017.  Injury does that.

In 2018, as a healthy full-year starter, he got 13 sacks. 

Which is to say, in summation, that what you claim above isn't even close to being true.

The primary reason that Carolina should avoid Ford is because of his size.  He's a 3-4 OLB and would be a disaster at 4-3 DE.  Unless we are going to a near full-time 3-4 set, Ford isn't worth the trade or the contract.

However, if we ARE going to a near full-time 3-4 set, he's likely easily worth the trade and every penny of what you would sign him for. 

Did i say he wasn't a great pass rusher and not worth trading for? 

[ImaginaryKev]

I mean I know pedantry is a thing, and fair enough, but my main point was that he might be on the trade block bc they gotta extend chris jones and Tyreek Hill. He can get after the QB so that'd net them a high draft pick probably and he's prob worth a second. 

[Smithers]

On 3/5/2019 at 12:54 PM, steven8989 said:

Nope I just know how Panthers work lol. Can you remember a time we have went after anybody that costs much? I think everyone remembers Gilbert, but guess what that's it.

Matt Kalil lol

[Palmetto]

On 3/5/2019 at 12:11 PM, mc52beast said:

Yeh, he should be the main topic of conversation in Panthers meetings. My question is why would the Chiefs be willing to dump him for only a 2nd rounder?

 

[tiger7_88]

17 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Did i say he wasn't a great pass rusher and not worth trading for? 

No, but you did say:

On 3/5/2019 at 12:28 PM, ImaginaryKev said:

Ford has only played up to his potential in his money year.

Which, as I pointed out, is incorrect.

[tiger7_88]

8 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

 

That might have been the straw, but the entire 2nd half of that game up to that point was KC coaches and players NOT named Dee Ford overloading that camel's back 

[tiger7_88]

17 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

I mean I know pedantry is a thing, and fair enough, but my main point was that he might be on the trade block bc they gotta extend chris jones and Tyreek Hill. He can get after the QB so that'd net them a high draft pick probably and he's prob worth a second. 

1.  Reading your actual words and responding to your actual words is in no way, shape, or form "pedantry".

2. Another reason why they are willing to let him go is that they have a new Defensive Coordinator.  Guess what style defense he runs?  You guessed it... a 4-3 defense.

[ImaginaryKev]

3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

No, but you did say:

Which, as I pointed out, is incorrect.

And i pointed out how pedantic that was

You did provide good stats, and we kind of agree he's a good pass rusher worth trading for?

[Palmetto]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

That might have been the straw, but the entire 2nd half of that game up to that point was KC coaches and players NOT named Dee Ford overloading that camel's back 

Yea im joking but i think the  Chiefs are changing from a 3-4 to a 4-3 

[ImaginaryKev]

Just now, tiger7_88 said:

1.  Reading your actual words and responding to your actual words is in no way, shape, or form "pedantry".

2. Another reason why they are willing to let him go is that they have a new Defensive Coordinator.  Guess what style defense he runs?  You guessed it... a 4-3 defense.

It is when it doesn't invalidate my main argument that they need to resign Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill, too

[tiger7_88]

Just now, ImaginaryKev said:

And i pointed out how pedantic that was

Correcting something you said that is incorrect doesn't live in the same universe as being pedantic.  You can keep on saying that it is, but that only means you're compounding your first incorrect statement with a second.

2 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

You did provide good stats, and we kind of agree he's a good pass rusher worth trading for?

He's a good pass rusher.  He's not worth trading for if your primary defensive formation is a 4-3.

[ImaginaryKev]

I can see you're trying hard to have the last word so here:

[tiger7_88]

3 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

Chiefs are changing from a 3-4 to a 4-3

Yep.

Don't get me wrong, I love me some Dee Ford.  People who understand my background know exactly why.

But he'd be an utter waste of money and traded draft picks in a Ron Rivera 4-3.

[tiger7_88]

Just now, ImaginaryKev said:

I can see you're trying hard to have the last word so here:

Yay!