Ron ranked in top 10 of NFL head coaches

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Yeah let's ignore he adjusted his role to run the defense the last few games, admitted his mistakes and is already mixing things up with his staff changes. You literally never adjust your commentary regardless of the facts.

He is a great D coordinator, that's a fact. I'm glad he is doing his friends job for him now. I guess it's better than him just standing on the sideline staring in to midair while the clock runs to zero. 

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

He is a great D coordinator, that's a fact. I'm glad he is doing his friends job for him now. I guess it's better than him just standing on the sideline staring in to midair while the clock runs to zero. 

Couldn't go a whole 3 sentences without throwing in a complaint. So predictable.

[Waldo]

Just now, panthers55 said:

Couldn't go a whole 3 sentences without throwing in a complaint. So predictable.

And neither could you. Was this a competition that I wasn't aware that I entered into?

And I wouldn't call it an adjustment more like his cover his arse alert kicking in. Real cool how we fired the guys responsible but kept the close friends that failed too, and in ways that superseded the guys we dumped. We should fire him and re-hire him as a D coordinator. He would be great doing that. He would excel doing that. He is a big floppy dong as a HC. Could we do worse? Sure. There could be two of him and that would be a pack of big floppy dongs. If we had six we could make hot dogs and you would eat it up. 

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

And neither could you. Was this a competition that I wasn't aware that I entered into?

And I wouldn't call it an adjustment more like his cover his arse alert kicking in. Real cool how we fired the guys responsible but kept the close friends that failed too, and in ways that superseded the guys we dumped. We should fire him and re-hire him as a D coordinator. He would be great doing that. He would excel doing that. He is a big floppy dong as a HC. Could we do worse? Sure. There could be two of him and that would be a pack of big floppy dongs. If we had six we could make hot dogs and you would eat it up. 

Same old complaints. Doesn't seem to matter you just go on and on with no facts just biased opinion. Do you think you are actually changing anyone's mind or do you just like complaining?

[Mr. Scot]

35 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Nice trolling. Not taking the bait. LOL

Wasn't directed at you.

Just a reminder of your MO...

[Waldo]

Burp

[Waldo]

6 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Same old complaints. Doesn't seem to matter you just go on and on with no facts just biased opinion. Do you think you are actually changing anyone's mind or do you just like complaining?

You wouldn't admit to a fact if it sat on you. You would just call it wrong and expect it to give in. I'm not in a cult and I'm not recruiting others. I'm a disgruntled football fan. You want my mind to change. Give me three competent season showing that I am dead wrong. Ron could squeak by with one but he has never done it back to back. Ever. That's a fact. I live and learn. I eat crow. I wish I was wrong but this dude is a dud at HC and could be a lights out D coordinator. 

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wasn't directed at you.

Just a reminder of your MO...

And trolling like that and extreme characterizations are yours.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

You wouldn't admit to a fact if it sat on you. You would just call it wrong and expect it to give in. I'm not in a cult and I'm not recruiting others. I'm a disgruntled football fan. You want my mind to change. Give me three competent season showing that I am dead wrong. Ron could squeak by with one but he has never done it back to back. Ever. That's a fact. I live and learn. I eat crow. I wish I was wrong but this dude is a dud at HC and could be a lights out D coordinator. 

When have you ever used facts instead of biased opinions with no substantiation. Do you know what a fact even is?

3 seasons easy.

We go from 2-14 with little to no talent and a cap crunch and went 6-10 with a rookie quarterback folks said would take 2 years to learn the offense and no off-season . Then despite his OC trying to get a HC job instead of helping the team and still deficits in talent and improves to 7-9 which is again an improvement. Then Gettleman finally gets us out of cap hell and shops at Walmart instead of the thrift store giving us some decent talent on the defense and we go 12-4. A huge improvement and a division title. Improvement each year. Ignore the 15-1 season or 11-5 in 2017 but yeah given what he had to work with he did a solid job.

As for changing your mind, I actually do that for a living and you would be a waste of time to try. You already know the answers before you even hear the questions.

[SmokinwithWilly]

If you have what many here consider to be a HoF QB and the best MLB of this decade and cant manage back to back winning seasons, you're not a top 10 head coach. 

He may be a players coach, but piss poor clock management, unwavering loyalty to lesser players/coaches/friends in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, and a ridiculous refusal to change anything no matter how obvious its needed, make him a middle of the road coach at best.

[panthers55]

6 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

If you have what many here consider to be a HoF QB and the best MLB of this decade and cant manage back to back winning seasons, you're not a top 10 head coach. 

He may be a players coach, but piss poor clock management, unwavering loyalty to lesser players/coaches/friends in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, and a ridiculous refusal to change anything no matter how obvious its needed, make him a middle of the road coach at best.

And here I thought you needed 22 players plus special teams to play a game not just 2 guys. I thought this was a football message board not doubles in tennis.

[Waldo]

33 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

When have you ever used facts instead of biased opinions with no substantiation. Do you know what a fact even is?

3 seasons easy.

We go from 2-14 with little to no talent and a cap crunch and went 6-10 with a rookie quarterback folks said would take 2 years to learn the offense and no off-season . Then despite his OC trying to get a HC job instead of helping the team and still deficits in talent and improves to 7-9 which is again an improvement. Then Gettleman finally gets us out of cap hell and shops at Walmart instead of the thrift store giving us some decent talent on the defense and we go 12-4. A huge improvement and a division title. Improvement each year. Ignore the 15-1 season or 11-5 in 2017 but yeah given what he had to work with he did a solid job.

As for changing your mind, I actually do that for a living and you would be a waste of time to try. You already know the answers before you even hear the questions.

Yep, I was wrong. 2011 to 2013 was an improvement. The slide in 2012 felt like a backslide but Ron pulled it out in the second half after Hurney was fired and cover asres mode was achieved. See I can admit mistakes?

Congrats on proving what I have already stated. I will eat crow. It will happen again. Something you said is impossible, so in a funny way it proves you wrong even when you find a right. I find all of this hilarious. 

[panthers55]

7 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Yep, I was wrong. 2011 to 2013 was an improvement. The slide in 2012 felt like a backslide but Ron pulled it out in the second half after Hurney was fired and cover asres mode was achieved. See I can admit mistakes?

Congrats on proving what I have already stated. I will eat crow. It will happen again. Something you said is impossible, so in a funny way it proves you wrong even when you find a right. I find all of this hilarious. 

Wonders never cease. Congratulations!!

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Wonders never cease. Congratulations!!

Still didn't admit to being wrong lol